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Just like you’re ignoring the sources that don’t fit your narrative. The Indystar article is from July. It includes quotes from Lander himself. You can choose to believe the reporter didn’t bother asking Lander about his height if you want to, but I’m not buying it. Anyway, I’ve said all I have to say on this topic. Lander will have top programs promising him PT and IU will be offering him an opportunity to split PT. I’m not getting my hopes up.

There were 3 guards on that team that played more MPG than Clark and a 4th that averaged a better stat line. I’m not sure you can say Virginia won a championship running a “5’9” guard and a 6’3” guard all season,” when there were 4 guards on the team that were better than the 5’9” player.

I hope so, and i’d be thrilled to land him. I’m simply going off the information available to me.

Probably trying to sell him on the idea of splitting time at PG. And I don’t think Lander will go for it.

24/7 and ESPN have him at 6’1” and Rivals has him at 6’2”. The primary newspaper in his home state had him at “about 6’2,” as of a month ago. It’s really neither here nor there because I don’t believe Phinisee and Lander each play 30 minutes a game unless Lander hits a 4 inch growth spurt.

If that’s truly the case then I could see them playing together but all of the recruiting sites still have him at 6’1” and an Indystar article from a month ago described him as “stretching to about 6’2.” If he was the 100th ranked player, I could see the information being outdated. Considering he’s the top ranked PG, I have a feeling it’s probably accurate. Perimeter defense is the biggest liability of the pack line and I just don’t see Miller playing two short guards when their assignments are the largest concern.

Phinisee and Lander are both listed at 6’1’’. Very few teams consistently play two short guards together, and they definitely don’t do it in the pack line. There’s a reason Miller is stocking up on 6’5” guards.

2 other guys? Lander would get Durham’s minutes right now. Don’t get me wrong, I like watching Durham and appreciate his effort, but he’s not what I would call a particularly good player. The fact that Al would be a senior and would have to compete with a freshman for minutes pretty much says it all. Lander’s only competition for minutes would be Phinisee, and I have a feeling that’ll be the primary reason we don’t land him. Miller clearly wants height and length on the floor and a lineup featuring Phinisee/Lander is a defensive liability in his system. It’ll be one or the other most of the time and I have a hard time seeing Lander take the lead in that battle.

I remember seeing him on Fee checking out the freshman girls that were sunbathing quite frequently. Always found it a bit creepy tbh

Ahh ok. Makes a lot more sense now. We could really use that kind of shooter at the moment.

I didn’t know if you were agreeing with my comment or citing Brian Evans as a counter to what I was saying. My bad man, it’s just a little difficult to decipher the meaning of your post when it’s limited to the name of a player that I’m not old enough to remember.

You’ll have to clarify; I was 4 years old when he began his college career.

You can have a low release point as long as your release is quick. Galloway appears to be able to put it up quick enough to offset the low release. That said, the numbers make me think his shot needs some work. Regardless, this is probably my favorite player in the state from 2020 and the one I was really hoping we’d get. I think we got a diamond in the rough. Not an immediate impact player but a guy that’s good for the culture and could develop into a very good player. I really like his ability to finish around the rim and through contact.

We’ll be going up against all of the top programs in the country before this recruitment is over. The second his ball handling skills catch up to his physical abilities, he catapults into the top 10.

I'm probably the person you're referencing and I stand by that comment, especially after reading that interview. He clearly states he wants to win and he wants to go somewhere that he'll have an impact. He also talks about developing a relationship with the coaching staff. If we don't do anything to prioritize him and he sits back and watches IU recruit 4 or 5 other guys at his position before extending an offer when we miss (i.e. treat him like a 12th, 13th scholarship player), I don't see him coming here. I see him going to a school like Purdue and hitting us for 25 and 8 every time we play because his favorite program didn't think he was good enough.

He is, but I don't think that alone excludes him. I haven't read all of the information on amateurism but it appears that you can play at the professional level and still be eligible as long as you were not compensated in any way. The article/information posted by Stuhoo says he went there on a deal that would allow him to play college ball which leads me to believe his family is footing the bill.

By definition, "less" is an adjective suffix meaning "without." Ergo, positionless means without having a position. You just described a lineup consisting of 5 distinct positions. Just because you put more than 1 of them in a lineup doesn't mean the "traditional" roles don't need to be filled. You can call them a wing, but one of those wings needs to be able to shoot. It'll just be someone an inch or two taller than your prototypical SG. The other wing still needs to provide some offense as well as some rebounding. Call me crazy, but that sounds eerily familiar to the responsibilities of a SF. The only difference between what you're describing and the way teams have always been built is that traditional bigs are expected to be more athletic/mobile. As far as the IU examples, well, they're honestly kind of counter-productive. We've been using that approach for 8 years and made 2 sweet sixteen appearances. So sure, I guess you can build a program that way. But like I said before, I'm not sure it's the best approach.

So you'd consider Demarcus Cousins to be a positionless player? You'd trust him to be your primary ball handler and you'd have no problem with him leading the team in 3 point attempts? I picked those two guys because they are the only ones that can do all of those things at a high enough level to negate the need for players that specialize in those skill sets. Sure, there are guys that can do a little bit of all those things, but there aren't enough to say that positionless basketball is the best approach to building a team. Especially if we start talking the college level.

While I agree with your description, I can’t say I agree with your example. You described a PF that can maintain his handle for 90 feet. Lebron James and Kevin Durant are examples of positionless players. Players like that only come along once or twice in a decade which means it’s probably not the best approach when building a program.

Doubtful. I believe he moved there from the Brownsburg area and was originally going to play for Plainfield. That’s what I was told by a Plainfield coach at least.

Bohannon was listed at 5’10, 140 lbs at Brown’s age

I’m not the least bit worried about his size if we’re talking the college level. Hulls and Ferrell were shorter, Coverdale was about the same height, and we played against two 6’1” point guards this year alone that gave opponents fits (Edwards and Bohannon). People can start the athleticism debate, but that doesn’t concern me much either. A smart player can offset those disadvantages, and Brown appears to be just that.

So, basically, if there’s 1 Luke Brown averaging 35 a game for a 2A school, he MIGHT be worthy of our 13th scholarship. But if there are multiple D1 players on a 2A parochial team and they schedule a couple 4A schools during the season, they’re good to go. I know you don’t share that sentiment, I’m just remarking on the logic at play with some of the posters on this board. I’d be willing to bet most of the same guys questioning his size and level of competition we’re thrilled when we landed Yogi and wished we had gotten Blueitt.

I wouldn’t blame parents one bit for taking advantage of the opportunity but, if that’s the case, why don’t the parochial schools in Indiana dominate in athletics the way they do in basically every other state? Just thinking about my time in HS, there could’ve been a school with a starting lineup of Mike Conley, George Hill, Eric Gordon, Rodney Carney, and Greg Oden. Forget number 1 high school team in the nation; that lineup could’ve made a run in the NCAA tourney.

I always thought that was the case but that second provision seems to prohibit athletic scholarships. I would consider an athletic scholarship to an academic institution as an attempt to influence the player to attend the institution. Schools like LaLu are exempt because they aren't member schools, but Park Tudor, Cathedral, Brebeuf, etc. would all fall under that "member institution" umbrella.