MartintheMopMan

Pinstripe and Farms are the most likely.   Crimson Cast had an awesome analysis this week of the options.   I'll try and do it from memory...   12 Big Ten bowl spots. MSU to playoffs, Iowa to Rose Bowl. OSU to Orange.   Next tier is Citrus, Outback, and Holiday. They're above us Michigan, NW, Wisco   Music City and TaxSlayer trade between ACC and Big Ten. Big Ten was in TaxSlayer last year, they'll probably go ACC. So, Music City. Probably PSU.   Quick Lane and Armed Forces are not good bowls. We should not fall to them.   So, it's pretty much Pinstripe or Foster Farms. We might sneak into Music City over PSU. Coach Franklin isn't very welcome in Tennessee, so they might get skipped and we take that one.   Indiana has a massive NYC fanbase, so probably Pinstripe over Foster Farms. It also gives us an ACC opponent instead of a Pac-12 which is good for us. Pac-12 offenses are scary when you don't have a defense. It would be like a 90 point game.

About effing time.   Though, we all know they'll win by 1 at the last second. That's how Maryland plays.

Well, in support of the third year theory...   Wake Forest's defense on footballoutsiders (so adjusted for opponents) for his first, second, and third years.   83, 90, 34

What can I tell you about Duke you don't already know? It was named for Washington Duke who has the least reliable wikipedia page I've ever seen. He bought a slave and served in the Confederate Navy but was staunchly anti-slavery? Maybe he sold slaves? Who can tell?   Another Confused Confederate - 78 The Northern State with the most Klan Members Per Capital in the 1920s - 80   It's gonna be tight tight tight!

1.31 years of experience if anyone was curious. We have 1.76. Duke has the same experience level as our 2011 squad and is .33 years more experienced than our team last year. In the bottom 60 schools in terms of experience. For reference points, Kentucky has .88 years and Ohio State has .78 (one Junior, no seniors, 4 sophomores, 5 freshman).   Oh course, we only count players who play at least 10% of possessions.   I love the fans at Cameron. They're some of my favorite in college basketball, probably ahead of our fans at the moment. They coordinate well, they have relatively clever chants and cheers, and they do stuff like that.   I've complained about our student sections absolute lack of coordination before. We don't even have crib sheets! I mean, come on, it's like we aren't even trying. Heck, I've been told to sit down in the Indiana student section during an upset. Told to sit down. By a student. In the student section. During an upset.   We have fallen a long way since we told some old people to stand up. Personally, I would eliminate all chairs unless you tell them you're physically incapable of standing for two hours. Maybe add some benches in the hallway.

    I think you're both right. Does it much matter how other teams fare on the road? No. That doesn't make us any better. But, it's also an interesting exercise which again, sheds light on the numbers we're putting stock in.   I grabbed a random representative team (well, I grabbed Duke because I already had Indiana open in KenPom and they were right there) and a random year (this really was random).   In 2014, Duke went 24-7 in the regular season. They played 14 games on neutral or away courts. All 7 losses came during these games. These include losses to 3 top-25 teams, 2 top-50, and a 99 and 118. They had 1 away win against a top-25 team, number 19 Pittsburgh. 1 neutral win against a top-25, (15) UCLA.   That was interesting so...   2013, Duke 27-4 regular season. Played so many neutral court games I can't even be bothered to count them. Was Cameron under construction? 9 away games (all conference). 4 losses to teams ranked between 14 and 48. Of the 5 away wins, highest ranked was UNC at 32nd. Next was NC state at 34.    I shouldn't have counted neutral sites in the first ones. They just play so many and I'm not up to the task of looking at 5 or 6 neutral sites in addition to the aways.   2012, 26-5 regular season. 11 away games. Lost 2 (2) OSU and (43) Temple. Won 9. Highest ranked UNC (6) (who then beat them at home) then Florida St (25). Otherwise no one exciting.   Well, I'm going to get back to work. I'd say the only conclusion we can draw for sure is that basketball has a crazy home advantage.

I mean, it all depends on how you define a "fair" set of numbers right? The presentation of statistics especially with conscious decisions to remove particular years almost always has some sort of bias or 'bending". The only way to avoid it is to present a complete data set.   So, the question is ultimately whether 2011 is reflective of Crean's coaching on the road or if the games were unwinnable no matter where they were played. (1) Ohio State beat us by both 18 and 19 at home and on the road respectively in 2011. Did being on the road have an effect or was it just the game? They beat (19) Illinois at home by 3 and then lost to Illinois on the road by 24 that year. That's a home/away disparity worth talking about. They dominated (26) Michigan by 17 at home and then went up north and lost by 4. Interesting stuff. Overall, in Big Ten play they were 0-9 away and 3-6 at home.    Does including those statistics paint a more complete picture or do they distort the picture some? Distortions don't always make a picture less useful, especially if you know to look for them.   And if you aren't willing to look at the statistics more closely, then what's the point?

Yes. That was my exact point to whomever posted those numbers initially.

We won 2 away games and 1 neutral court game during Crean's first two years (before 2011). Of course, we only won 16 games total those years, so that's like, 18.75% of our wins.

Not to downplay this too much, since I think you're right to be concerned based on these stats. But, the way we remove random years makes everything so muddled.   If people generally agree the first three years don't count, then 2011 should not be included. We only won 12 games that year, so no surprise our 11 road games were not wins. I don't understand why you would remove 2012-13 either. I guess because it is interesting to see the 0 there. 5 or 6 of the 0-16 are from 2011 too.   I think we're terrible on the road or neutral courts, I think that tells us a lot about how the team is coached and develops, I don't know these numbers are very honest portrayals though.   Kentucky and Duke actually favor the same tempo. The level of competition was high enough to never seem slow though. And, neither are slow teams, they both play exactly average tempos, likely slowed some because when you're actually playing defense the opposing possessions are longer while they look for a shot.   I'm optimistic about the game, I can see routes where we can win, but realistically I don't expect us to win. But, who wants to be negative and already count it as a loss? That's no way to live.

If we can get some early shots to fall, we'll have a great showing. I don't know that it will be good enough to win (though, I took us in the pick'ems) but we will definitely be there the whole time. If we have trouble early starting our offense, we won't start our defense and we'll be massacred.   Cameron is one of the (or the) hardest places to win on the road. The crowd is incredible, the design of the arena makes them right in the player's faces, and the students are outrageous. Duke will be pumped up, we'll be pumped up, it's going to be huge.   Duke's biggest weakness is the 3 on both ends of the court. They also like to play slow. I want to see us forcing them to speed up and moving the ball to open up 3s when we can't find an open lane. And to force them to take more 3s than they would like. If we can get them to do that, we can win or at least seriously compete.    The trouble is, Duke hasn't faced a team like us so it's hard to predict.

Nopraw. Yeah I figured, you're tired so no worries. You did the hard part.

Firing Knorr would manage to look better to future hires. I say manage, because it would absolutely look terrible to keep our revolving door going and many good hires don't want to join that kind of thing. But, somehow, firing him would be a better choice than telling everyone else they get a raise and hoping he quits. I don't think even the DC at Bloomington South would get involved then. Would you work for a company who did that to your predecessor?

We forget Wes Green because he hasn't played football in like 2 years. Red-shirting and then sitting out a transfer year makes it very hard to keep a player fresh in your mind.   But thanks for reminding me. I'm excited again now too.

That'll show future DC hires how we treat our assistants! They'll lineup around the block.

Here's a link in case anyone else doesn't want to hunt through the menus for it...   https://btownbanners.com/index.php?app=pickems&do=games&pid=12&wid=154

North: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, MSU, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska   South: Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, OSU, PSU, Rutgers, Maryland

Navy's helmets for the Navy-Army game:  

You were at the game. You didn't get to hear the announcers talk about Shawn Carter.

Terrible play after the hand-off at 1:30. But, here are highlights from an opposing team if you want to see him take sacks and throw incompletes. Number 21, white. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nysPy2iVEqU   If you go to his main hudl he has tons of individual game highlight videos which are like 7 minutes long each, so they're almost entirely him just making complete passes and you can watch his reads and footwork without constant long bombs. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/586266   He looks a lot like Kap at a lower level. Similar motions and reactions to pressure. With a good line and receivers he can do some awesome things, without them he'll struggle. I would not put much stock in him developing out of these habits. He's been out of high school for years now.   I'll still take him.

Just a mini-list of schools who entered the top-25 and left the top-25. There was absolutely no content about Indiana. It was'nt even an interesting blurb.

A 5-star All-American? Haven't seen him but yes sign him up!

Yeah, that's not a good stat. This is a bottom-5 in the country team. Bottom 10-offense. This puts our defense at roughly Florida A&M levels. 

Priller should have been at 34 minutes.

Is Jay-Z still relevant?