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It’s nonsense. I guess it comes from our fans getting upset when our team severely underperforms for a number of years despite that being a reasonable reaction. I think our fans are patient all things considered, it’s amazing so many people still care. Coaching at IU rules. Big resources. Get elite players. Nice facilities. Nice town. Huge support and an amazing venue in Assembly Hall. IU fans will travel to neutral sites and provide a crowd advantage — hell we outdrew UConn at MSG last season and managed a 50/50 crowd in Auburn’s backyard in Atlanta… and we had a bad team! If we can ever get a good coach it’s gonna be fun again.

Actually, I'm not basing it off one season. IUFB doesn't need to have a year like last year to be on a path to improvement (getting out of the bottom of the conference) and more revenue. The IU athletic dept is more than just basketball.

We'll also have to wait and see how the new coach actually performs. People could generally be bummed with the hire, but then the hire does great. Or everyone loves the hire, but then they struggle for some reason.

Ha, no way. With FB doing well, Scott is set, that sport drives everything in the athletic dept. Scott has setup IU to bring in tens of millions more in revenue, and last year the school was showcased on GameDay and Big Noon and other shows like it never has before. And for the 1,000th time, Scott didn't hire Woody so he isn't held responsible. Scott just got an extension and raise in May 2024, he isn't going anywhere.

Haha. Rabby really does a Ms. Cleo routine over there.

These guys have other sources around IU they use to form their viewpoint.

Not that anyone should care, but I'd just like to revise that the CBB media folks I know are now saying Brad is not a firm "no." Still a long-shot, but there is small chance in their view. That's not a big improvement, but it's something.

I'll give you my $0.02 to take or leave: You have to factor in the Cignetti hire, the guy is who currently AP Coach of the Year. Scott has been AD for five years and so far that was the only major hiring process he has run without interference. The reason I back Scott, is he didn't just hire Cig, he is building up the entire football program from almost nothing, and that is really impressive and important to IU athletics' future. Getting Cig was not easy. At the end of the Allen tenure IUFB was literally in bottom few teams in the conference in NIL (like $2M, that's nothing), and of course we had barely any fan support and a history of being maybe the worst D1 program ever. IUFB was a very tough sell. But Scott raised $15M to buy out Allen and not give him another year, he raised money to increase FB NIL, he targeted Cig from many options, and he convinced him to come here. Other schools like Duke were trying to hire Cig too, and Scott got him to come to all-time crappy IUFB. Next, keeping Cig and his staff was not easy after a historic season like last year. Scott got a commitment to football and to extend/pay Cig and his staff that is unprecedented for IU. Cig is close to a top-10 paid coach and his staff budget is top-5. That's hard to believe, but it's true. All sorts of schools were poking around our coordinators/assistants and we only lost our QB coach who got a legit playing calling OC gig at UCLA. Our QB coach replacement has an amazing resume. And Scott has kept FB NIL going up. I just watched IU sign a top-3 portal QB in Mendoza that Miami, Georgia, Mizzou, and other schools were after. Since when has IU ever done that? This is amazing. Obviously, future IUFB seasons probably won't be like last year. There will be ups and downs. But it's pretty clear we are making a serious move to get out of the cellar of the B1G and become a midpack football program. That is a huge deal and worth tens of million of $ per year to the athletic dept. Maybe we can be even better than midpack, like top third or something. Regardless, this is incredible progress and most of the credit goes to Scott. As much as we like basketball, football is what drives the financials for the entire athletic dept. It's basically the only sport that matters. IU athletics has some challenges ahead, notably (i) funding the $22M per year rev share to players and keeping all our non-rev sports than lose $ going, and (ii) keeping our media rights in 2031. As for the media rights, all athletic depts are under pressure with the rev share costs right now, and in 2031 it wouldn't be surprising if OSU, UM, and other big football programs that generate the big TV ratings that drive the big media deals ask for more of the media rights vs. the current even split. Why should OSU get the same annual media rights money as programs no one watches like NW, PU, etc.? We really want IU to have a case to keep our cut of the media rights, and football is like 80% of what matters for that. Basketball is tiny. This is also why what Scott is doing with football is very important. Sorry that’s a long rant about Scott building the football program, but it shows he is competent and capable. On to basketball. Well, we’ve sucked for 25 years, but everything pre-2020 is irrelevant. That’s pre-NIL and the idiots that messed up all those hires aren’t in control now. It appears the 2021 idiots that hired Woody probably aren’t materially involved this time around, thank god. Assuming the hire is Scott’s call, it’s not a guarantee he gets it right. He could screw up. But I think there is a good chance he does get it right. There is all the stuff he’s been doing right with football detailed above. IUBB is an easier hire – top-5 resources is very appealing to coaches. And Scott has been planning for the bball hire for years. Woody was always a short-term solution and Scott must have known in year two or earlier Woody was a fraud – Scott was changing his buyout structure back in 2023. And Scott has seen all our bad hiring processes and hires since Knight. Anyways, this is just one anon’s perspective. I don't know Scott and he doesn't pay me. If people want to be skeptical of Scott that’s fine. But I am 100% positive he is the only person at IU who has a good chance to make a good hire. No one else in the athletic dept has hired a BB/FB coach, Pam hasn’t hired a BB/FB coach, and I don’t think we want to tap the incompetent BoT/old guard again lol. We aren’t firing Scott and even if we did his replacement would be worse. So, in conclusion, we’ve got a competent AD for once and I think he can get this right. Fingers-crossed and knock on wood…

Good points. In the end, this is one big attempt to figure out who the next coach is maybe a few days before everyone knows. It’s kinda pointless, but it’s entertaining and fun — lots of good debate here. No one has to play this game, if someone wants certainty they have the IndyStar, H-T, or IU press conference announcing the new coach to all the IU fans. Everyone will find out who the next coach is.

Same. Though I suspect after his intro presser I would get all excited and optimistic as I always do with a new coach. He has won it all I will tell myself.

True. Wouldn't be the first time with him...

$11M would make him the highest paid NBA exec, more than Pat Riley. I highly doubt that. $4-7M/yr or something like that makes more sense.

Add me to the list of not very impressed with Trilly's coach search info. I'm not saying he can't be right, but so far pretty meh, and I'm skeptical of what he reports. Just my opinion.

Texas folks perhaps want to see a rival lose their coach and they're hoping it's true? It seems like more names are flying around now. Gotta say it's so entertaining.

That would be funny. It seems PU has been skating by with their mediocre NIL, for example they were fortunate Edey stayed for $1M/yr when he was worth $2-3M/yr. I'd love to see them face the music if they don't offer their players market rate, fair NIL/rev share.

I’ve got a sliver of hope for Brad because it’s fun. The Sunday presser on FS1 claim from a poster whose name contains “Is a actor” is nonsense/trolling.

Yes. A few pages back. Very interesting — as other posters noted could be a GM role for him and he is likely in the loop with our next coach.

Matt is good when talking about his team. Funny when asked about the IU job he started blaming IU fans — the usual nonsense narrative we get from Woody’s program and the burners. Matt and other B1G coaches stand to lose a lot if we get good, this clearly impacts their comments about the IU job. The worst is when Izzo praises our bad coach that has cratered IUBB… of course you like him Tom.

Brad recruited Cody. Just sayin’ they know each other.

All good as long as the new coach 100% wants him vs IU telling the new coach who the GM will be. We need total alignment with the staff this time around. You know who recruited Cody…

Sheesh. Beard’s agent must be worn out from begging so many schools to consider his client.

As an FYI, IU AD is fiscal year end June, so FY24 is before this past football season happened. The FY24 revenue increase is mostly from what is basically a loan from IU to the athletic dept for Tom's buyout, hiring Cig/staff, etc. I expect a nice increase in revenue from football, so your point stands, just noting we don't know what exactly the impact is yet. Sorry to be pedantic, just noting for folks who follow the AD's financial results...

I would just like to point out Scott Dolson’s last hire is currently AP Coach of the Year in the most important college sport.

Decent chance the JFK file gets declassified soon (66% chance per betting markets). That’s a drop everything and read it moment if it happens.

I love that clip, especially the line “It’s a total fabrication!”