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Nervermind….thats Sisley. I’m still learning their numbers

Bailey Alexis lineup out here early

How about college basketball (40 min of play time) figure out how to finish in less than 2 hrs.

Well yea…that’s any program in any sport anywhere. We don’t need to extrapolate out failed experiments in Crean and Sampson. Cig and IU football prove that. It doesn’t make IU special. If anything we’re the opposite of whatever “special “ is since most programs can find that hire through sheer luck over 3 decades. But IU on the other hand… We all are hoping Devries is the one to turn that around, of course.

Throw me in with the guys that think if we missed out on anyone it was probably May. Looking to be one of the best hires of the last few years. With that said, there’s nothing stopping CDD from being better here. Time will tell.

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This would be exhibit #1 in my case against current day IU basketball. Most, including donors, were ready for Crean to go because he hadn’t lived up to expectations. That people now look back on his tenure well enough to say his firing was a mistake shows how far things have fallen. Davis and Sampson had flashes too…twenty years ago. The standard at other basketball schools, with whom we wish to be considered peers, is roughly: be in the tourney every year, be able to make a run every few years, actually win a title (or damn close) every decade-ish, and be the best in your conference. IU hasn’t been there since the early 90’s. Pretty much nobody expects that out of IU. We’re basketball schools like Purdue and NC State are basketball schools where a strong football season relegates you to the backburner until January. Devries probably takes over a program with the lowest expectations since a young Bob Knight was hired. When Knight was hired IU hadn’t won a title in 18 years (our current FF drought is longer than that now). Hopefully the lack of pressure will allow Devries to put down a solid foundation and ultimately succeed.

The attendance thing is a good point, even though due to stadium size there’s only a couple schools that can possibly claim the top spot. In any event, we have amazing fans. Both loyal and patient. It’s why it always irks me when one of these coaches goes south that some contingent of the athletic department, coaching community, or blindly loyal fans blames the fan base. It’s nonsense. With that said, I was kind of thinking more along the lines of what we’ve been, where we’re at, and where we’re going. At some level people will always associate IU and the state of Indiana with basketball. But looking at the money IU and its donors are pouring in on Cig and the football program and you have to at least raise the question. That’s not happening at Duke, UK, Uconn and Kansas. I’m not sure where that leaves IU. But another failed coach and 4-8 years lost in the wilderness for IU basketball while Cig goes to a couple more playoffs (or wins a title) and all the nostalgia in the world won’t matter. The balance of power will be firmly with the football program. Everyone inside and outside will recognize it. And I’m in your camp—as far as sports go IU basketball will always be my first choice.

Must be a basketball renaissance in Hawaii because one of their D2 schools beat Boise State on Monday night.

That was over a decade ago. Also, I have to say that our high point in the last 25 yrs being the one time we were ranked #1, a celebrity picked us to win the tourney, and we flamed out in the S16 is kind of sad. That would be something a school like Nebraska or Florida St would look back fondly on. Schools like UConn, Duke, UK, etc…would consider that a low-light. I don’t know what we are, but it’s hard to make the case we’re a basketball school. I kind of think we nominally are based on facilities/budget, etc… but I am not sure that’s even the case. We’re pouring a ton of money into football. If Cig and CDD get into a battle of resources, I am not sure wins out. I think probably Cig, which is a notion that would’ve been laughable 5-10yrs ago.

I don’t remember any excitement when Woody was hired. Last year I went back through the thread on here from when he was hired. “Excitement “ is definitely not the term I would use. I do remember a lot of crowing about Archie when he was hired. In any event, it isn’t about one single person. IU is just currently a trash program from a results standpoint that’s an accumulation of 25 years of crap. I think some of us on here are blind to it because we watch anyways. I seriously doubt any supposed “blue blood” in any sport has went through a 25 yr run as bad as IU basketball. Reading online the other day I saw an Arizona fan joke about how perpetually “disappointing “ their program is—they haven’t been to a FF in almost 25 yrs. And all I could think to myself is “buddy, you have no idea…”

I don’t think Woody got the benefit of the doubt. He was temporarily buoyed by things like Knight publicly coming back, making the tourney, and then TJDs final year. Archie killed the remaining goodwill for the program.

Boy, both of Purdues centers look stiff. I’ll be shocked if they don’t play 15-20 mins a game with TKR as the main post.

If I could get that to sync up with the TV it’d be perfect

Bardo is an egregious oversight, but I don’t mind Settles. Him and Butch are probably my two preferred guys.

Also, I don’t want to frighten anyone who is all jazzed about 3 pointers this year but… Arizona shot five 3-pters last night. Not made, but shot. Florida shot 27.

I’m trying to think of a better freshman debut performance and can’t think of one off the top of my head. I’d guess you’re right Stuhoo on him being one and done. With that said he’s listed at 6’8” 235. He’s very skilled and fluid with a ton of strength. But I could see a scenario where his measurables send him back for another (highly paid) season. Not a lot of 6’8” guys in the NBA get their buckets the way he did last night. Not anymore anyways.

Sounds about right for those guys

Myles Rice out tonight for Maryland. They have his former WSU backcourt mate. Plus a couple freshman and a decent MM transfer PG. interesting roster Buzz cobbled together. I could see them being a tough out in conf play by the end of the year. Like us though it looks like teams with good size and athleticism could overwhelm them.

I saw that post the other day. While initially skeptical that we’d start both our PG’s together, I see why Enrights in there. In fact, I think it’ll be tough to get him out of there so long as Bailey starts. Him and Conorway and an increasingly defensive Lamar make the kind keep-your-man-in-front-you perimeter defensive unit you’d want if you’re trying to protect guys like Bailey, and to a lesser extent, Tucker and Sisley underneath.

That’s a fun first game

The real reason Saban retired…

IU - 82 Who? - 61

They’ve been screen heavy. They can basically have them now because they’re not coming back from this deficit

Same plus PU football fans are pretty demoralized so I’m sure they’ll hardly bother to show up.