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Bro, you’re on another planet, just drop it

Pretty solid looking, can improve his movement on release but pretty solid

Just don't go to Russia ....

Vonleh doesn't get much love here/from IU fans, for his one-year stay and how he (IIRC) limited play heading towards the end of season/draft, but he's carved out a fairly long professional career with several NBA stops and now he's at least potentially back. Good for him --

I honestly have no idea why you're pursuing this ridiculous argument. Right, newsflash, Vic was NOT a point guard, he was a 2/off guard, he was not a primary ball handler in high school or college, and you think that supports this ridiculous, senseless argument that he could barely dribble?? Why you continue this inanity is beyond me man. And I'm not buying you watched the team then, or you (hopefully) would not pursue this ridiculous argument. That's all I can stand, I'm out of this.

No, Vic wasn’t a point, that’s the point. And he wasn’t kept off the floot?? Did you even watch those teams? I’m sorry but this is ridiculous

Hate to see that happen to anyone. Memories of Maurice Creek, one of the highest scoring freshman before his first knee injury.

RIP, a genuinely great one

One of my favorite bands, never really took off in the U.S., but one of the better recent rock bands out there, lead singer/guitarist Kelly Jones (Welsh) has a really distinctive, unique voice and nice guitar work Probably their most known (biggest hit) Maybe Tomorrow But lots of other great tunes - Dakota's from their Language. Sex. Violence album - excellent, deep all around

^^ Really nice unplugged:

This is outstanding. Thx for sharing it

So are you really arguing Vic could barely dribble? Really? This entire discussion is weird. His “dribble” was fine man

Face mirror anyway :)

In fairness it’s not semantics. Vic never had any trouble dribbling, and again he averaged a double double as a guard on the strong Dematha team (and I’ve posted it here bf, a friend who scouted Vic before he picked IU gave me his opinion then that he’d be a star. Vic was never a primary ball handler, he came in as a 2 or off ball guard, that wasn’t his role. He had high TO’s early bc of his aggressive attacking play and learning to play under control and at the speed of college ball, not bc he was somehow learning how to dribble, come on now. His offensive game improved all around, including a monster jump in outside shooting, from the 20s to the 40s, but you could see the form in his FT’s, he had all the tools coming in, about as good a recruiting decision as I’ve ever seen

Yeah he averaged a double double including boards as a guard on that DeMatha team, already an excellent defender and Cook got the offensive load and Coach K ran in and grabbed him overlooking Vic. Who got the better end of that deal? Lol

Agree and with @cthomas-- sometimes the media guys lose track of the fact they're talking to college kids who play basketball - a couple hey congrats on being a dad type questions are cool, but come on media guys, stop the digging around into a player's personal life.

Cody was so dominant, and agree he could've done even more. One of the best former IU players imo. At the same time, Vic was unstoppable as a junior, a monster defender who could dominate anyone, and Yogi was genuinely special all around. I can't rank those guys against each other, just can't, different positions, each became an incredible player at IU (and that's remembering how people used to bash Yogi for running into traffic and leaving his feet with nowhere to go as a frosh -- funny looking back at that now).

Amazing this has been going since 2019

So now the Celtics are apparently in the try-to-get Durant sweepstakes and are willing to deal Jaylen Brown. I'm not a C's fan or a Nets' fan (and not a Durant fan due to his jumping to the Warriors to get rings after getting knocked out by GS in that melt-down Thunder series). Durant's still one of the best in the game, no doubt, but he's starting to get long in the tooth and Brown plus other assets for him? Naah, don't like that from the C's, but just my take.

I get the push back we keep seeing on the idea of JG playing on the wing -- in addition to playing his typical forward role -- but I'm kind of wondering if people are watching the interview posted in the first clip. What's clear is that he is and has been working on being able to play both spots / roles all summer, as posted, he talks about what he's been working on to be able to bring that to the table. He also responded to a question about whether the idea to move to the 3 came from Woodson, and answered pretty directly that the idea came from him (JG) to grow his game and contribute more to the team - and not to move to the 3 but to allow him to play both as needed. The kid is a beast already, dominates boards and blocks, has been improving his shot and handle, and now he's a seasoned junior. I will be flat out shocked if he's not playing major minutes, and like you, I tend to think we'll see really intriguing lineups during games (irrespective of starts) that are not fixed by pigeon-holing players into the outmoded idea of 1,2,3,4,5. So many options now -- TJD, Race, JG, X, JHS / Race, JG, Ren, Bates, X / TJD, JG, Bates, JHS, X / TJD, Ren, Kopp, JHS, X / TJD, Race, Ren, Bates, X/ etc.

I expect him to play a lot and 16-18 minutes is a lot. Like I said, if he plays 25, which is major starter minutes, great, that means he's genuinely exceptional already as a frosh.

Geronimo: 232 Min Everyone else: 0 :)

Good info, thx. I still wouldn't see him coming in at 25 mpg, but if he does then he's extremely good, and that would be a major plus. How well JG and Bates have continued to grow their games over the summer to me remains the key to the season. I see Ren as a serious contributor, but it's still Mont/HS to B1G, and as a frosh would expect more in the 16-18 mpg range

Time will tell, but I do not see Ren, a frosh, as coming in and playing the same amount as Race, or so displacing JG, a junior. Ren's uber talented, he's got the college ready body, he's really good, but you guys are seriously discounting JG, imo. The dude kills the glass, he's easily the most athletic player on the team, he's a rebounding monster and a returning vet who just played very well in the NCAA tourney, and on a per 40 basis was 11+ boards, (16.6 on per 100 min) - best on team - and 2.2 blocks (3.3 per 100 min) - 2nd best on team, already raised his 3-point shooting to 31% likely improved over summer, and he's coming in honing his skills to play at both the 3 and 4. Ren came off the bench in his loaded Montverde team. He's excellent, but he's a frosh.

From ITH -- https://www.insidethehall.com/2022/07/19/video-jordan-geromino-talks-expanding-his-game-his-position-for-next-season-and-more/ Expanding his game so he can play the 3 or the 4. Fighting over ball screens instead of defending ball screens. Defending in transition. Working on decision making - spacing, on ball when to shoot, pass, off ball setting actions, when to cut, making the right decision on the perimeter. Jump shot and handle are getting better. Asked if he's trying to play to play small forward, says more trying to expand his game so he can play the 3 and the 4 (good), produce more for the team. Idea of playing the 3 came from him, to expand his game. About his decision to come back -- "bigger than myself" -- talks about how he trusts Woodson and how strong he sees the program and fighting for a championship (nice). _Still a young kid, so much potential.) Asked about players breaking out, but not really being talked about, says likes K Banks a lot, he has game.