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JHS is not a wing, he's a pg/combo-guard, we're not realistically in the Pack hunt. JHS/X backcourt.

yep, my bad

It's almost like ITH was following this thread and the discussion of his potential position/role next season. Their summary on Geronimo's decision process: Jordan Geronimo seems like someone who could wait and see what Thompson does. Although he could certainly bump the veteran four out of the starting spot on his own, Geronimo might prefer a cleaner path to more playing time in his third year, that doesn’t include beating out a 62-game starter. The other alternative for Geronimo is developing into the three role. That would require significant skill development, mainly in his ball handling and passing. But Geronimo likely has the highest ceiling on the team, so major strides in those areas won’t come as a surprise. But we like him as a small-ball four in any event, a role he thrived in on the defensive end late in the season. Geronimo also has the unique pressure of being far away from his New Jersey home, something that seemed to weigh on him when he decided to enter the portal last season. Wherever he plays, his per-40 11.3 rebounds and 2.2 blocks, and team-high 11.9 percent offensive rebounding rate will be hard to keep off the floor. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/a-look-at-the-decisions-of-the-nine-remaining-iu-basketball-players-from-the-2021-22-team/?fbclid=IwAR3vMrNJ7LuCBsrprS95gJVERPjtrVorboYDGNuvr1ivnsHMHES8_UazBus

Always have a player in the middle, passing in and out with the ability to score either from that player or the perimeter

Agree with running with Race and Geronimo, and the conversation shouldn’t be between those two, if Race cones back he should absolutely start, the weakness was the Kopp - Stewart insisted starters and Kopp manning the wing while contributing little. Geronimo should start, his handle can develop and he’s heads and shoulders a better contributor on both ends than Kopp, that’s just clear as day, I’ll take developing his handle, any day, over watching another season of Kopp standing there not shooting or rebounding and players blowing by him. I don’t mean to dis Kopp but it’s absolutely ridiculous to see him start over Geronimo just because he offers the promise of outside shooting

Agree but it’s also the case that the team shot 3’s by volume still towards the bottom of the B1G — it’s not just getting 3-point shooters it’s the staff developing and pushing perimeter shooting. Why are we shooting 3’a like it’s a CAM team? Can’t keep just running the O through the post and expect to win well. It’s both, developing the outside game and adding shooting. All that said, I like Duncomb, he’s shown promise already, wasn’t ready to contribute as a frosh but is a big who can develop well and i’m looking forward to seeing it

Gotta add, since I'm going overboard in my mancrush on Geronimo (!) eFG% Geronimo - 56% (4th on team, 3rd not counting Childress) Kopp - 46% (11th, 9th not counting Childress & Duncomb) Thing is, eFG% specifically adjusts for the fact that a 3-pointer is worth more than a 2PT FG. And Kopp is still 10% lower.

Actually the only stat that had Childress and Duncomb above both of them was Boards, and again, their numbers are irrelevant. If you remove Childress and Duncomb from all of the posted stats the only changes it would make as to Kopp are in the per 40 min stats, raising him up by 2 to 10th in PPG, by 1 in Blocks to 7th, by 2 in Boards to 7th, by 2 in FG% to 10th. No other impact on Geronimo is he's above those guys in every stat on a per 40 basis other than Boards -- which basically emphasizes the point.

I'm not following. How am I manipulating numbers? These are simple per 40 stats and total stats. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/indiana/2022.html No manipulation. The only point about Childress & Duncomb is that they barely played, their placement at 1 and 2 in Boards is obviously irrelevant. I haven't checked Kopp's NWU numbers, he's always been a good shooter, but wasn't one to put the ball on the floor or rebound. That certainly didn't change. I get why Kopp was out there -- to create space at least by his shooting threat -- but he didn't take many shots so whatever utility there was in that was clearly limited, and his production was just poor, particularly considering his minutes. Geronimo's minutes jumped to plus 20 in the last few games, so I'm maybe just preaching to the choir, but man staff, wake up.

Some more stats Per 40 Min Geronimo - 13.8 PPG (4th on team), 11.8 Boards (3rd, but really 1st behind Childress & Duncomb), Blocks 2.2 (2nd ), FG% .518 (3rd), 3PT 31% (7th), FT 57% (12th) Kopp - 9.5 PPG (12th on team), Boards 4.1 (9th ), Blocks .4 (8th), FG% .356 (12th), 3PT 36% (4th), FT 86.5% (2nd), Totals Geronimo - Points 148 (6th), Min 429 (8th), Boards 121 (4th), Blocks 31 (3rd), Turnovers 31 (5th), FG 52% (3rd) Kopp - Points 209 (5th), Min 879 (4th), Boards 89 (5th), Blocks 9 (4th), Turnovers 32 (4th), FG 36% (12th) Last few games (UM,. Wyoming, St. Mary's due to Geronimo's injury - not Illinois, Iowa) Geronimo - Pts 5, 15 and 9, shot 1-2, 1-4 and 1-1 on 3's, 2, 7 and 6 boards Kopp - Pts 5, 0, and 0, shot 2-4, 0-1, 0-1 on 3's, 3, 2 and 1 boards. Geronimo's improvement areas are FT's and growing his outside game, but the form is there, and already 31% despite poorer shooting earlier. Has to improve the handle to play more at the wing, but also saw improvement on that through the year. His minutes grew to 20-plus at the end of the season and he produced way better than Kopp, it's not close.

Honestly, he's already way, way better than Kopp out there. Someone needs to wake up. He's been primarily at the 4, coming in for Race, while Kopp has been largely unproductive, a liability defensively, and inconsequential.

Going all Will Smith on them?

I'm hoping we get X Booker, 6'11 with a 36% outside shot, a running big and a rim protector, really like his potential and current level of play.

JMO, any and all speculation about Geronimo is just unfounded worry. Everything I've heard is that he is absolutely back, expected to be a key player for us next season, running right off his last few games and tourney play, and post-game interviews. He aint going anywhere

Poor kid has no future in politics :)

I would want to get out of Kentucky as soon as possible too :)

Calhoun’s health is the word…

It all came down to IU self-reporting, of course those other programs don't and then fight what are clearly much more serious violations. But in terms of rosters, we did have some very good ones under Crean, I mean Cody, Vic, Yogi, et al, those were some great rosters, we just didn't get past the SW16

I had Nova v UCLA in my bracket. Now one of Nova's leading scorers is out....

JG is in that group for sure

Right, I never said emulate UM’a schedule. And yeah i’m not sure why there would be complaining about adding B to the schedule, I’m certainly not

Who’s talking knee jerking? We’re talking adding a Bellar etc to the schedule

This is what we were kind of expecting under Woodson, a 4 in 1 out, with mobility, p&r, outside shooting with Kopp - Stew. Didn’t materialize, but may see things more like this next season

Yeah i have no problem with moving on for fit etc, happens all the time, just think that the better approach and the one you usually see is for the HC to wish the departing assistant well and thank him for his contributions, not publicly mske comments msking it clear he canned him

It’s all opinion, but there are some basic points that imo really aren’t about opinion — how a HC announces an assistant coach’s departure. There isn’t a good reason to make it clear publicly that Woodson is pushing him out. Whether it’s ego or poorly thinking things through or whatever, the better practice, and especially given this is Fife the former player, is to handle it with class