Hoosierfan2017

Would’ve been more entertaining if they gave Woodson a mic and let him make an *** out of himself, but this was the better approach.

Woodson could’ve left on day 1 and it still would’ve been too late.

Scouting for Cody Zeller

My view is only hire Beard if you can’t get another coach as good or better than him. If you strike out on those guys then hire Beard. He’s a good coach who apparently really wants the job, and that quality is really important to me in a hire. If we pass on Beard to hire a Brownell or a McCollum then I’ll be annoyed.

Hes not

Hes been to the round of 32 three times at a school that quite literally has never made the NCAA tournament before he got there. I hate the “imagine what he’d do with IU’s resources” take as much as anyone, but he’s the one guy I think it actually applies to.

It’s not about Bob Knight connections, it’s about the Bob Knight mentality/mindset. Bob Knight was many things, but he wasn’t soft, he wasn’t a pushover, and his teams weren’t either. That’s what a “uniquely Indiana” culture is. A full-on Knight mentality wouldn’t work today. But all you have to do is watch the Pitino video from earlier this year and St. John’s results to see that it still works today. Teams take on the personality of their coach.

You’d have to get very far down the candidate list before vetting him would make sense. If IU gets that far down the list, well, that says everything about the state of the program.

I’m sure McCollum knows his X’s and O’s, but I just have no interest in hiring a guy who has to learn every other aspect of the job on the fly. Can he schmooze with donors? Can he handle the egos that come with recruiting million dollar teenagers? How does he handle 15k hostile road crowds? Plenty of guys across industries are stars at lower levels but can’t cut it at the very top. In no circumstance should a school of IU’s brand and NIL funds have to gamble on McCollum being a guy who can.

Mike Woodson the coach is about as far away from Bob Knight culture as one can possibly get.

I’m taking a Chris Collins or even a Brad Brownell before I’m taking a McCollum.

There isn’t a “uniquely Indiana” culture. The Indiana culture was really just Bob Knight culture. The past 25 years have shown that IU is just another school without Knight. So, if you want to bring back that culture, bring back a coach with a Bob Knight mentality. Not saying that’s the perfect move to make, but that’s Beard.

You’re allowed to do whatever you want in college athletics and basically always have been.

He didn’t. He’s taken consistent steps up since taking over IUP in 2011. Why do people keep comparing McCollum to Cignetti? The comparison only somewhat makes sense if you ignore everything pre-2011 for Cignetti, and even then it doesn’t.

Cignetti played P5 football and had decades of P5 assistant experience before he ventured off on his own, including at Alabama. McCollum has never experienced any situation comparable to IU basketball in his career.

McCollum hasn’t even proven that he can make it to the tournament most years. There are plenty of people who are superstars at lower levels in their fields but can’t chop it at the highest level. There’s an enormous difference between where McCollum spent the last 14 years and Indiana University basketball. Dude’s team was playing in gyms the size of 1A Indiana high school gyms.

When McCollum goes to back to back D1 national title games that comparison will make sense.

The other four names would make me very happy.

I’m sure he is, but this is probably the most important hire in post-Knight IU basketball history. IU has a golden opportunity to make a splash given NIL. The pressure to succeed immediately will be immense. Now isn’t the time to take a risk on a D2 coach with one season of D1 basketball under his belt.

Ugh please no McCollum. I was hoping that was just message board hopes.

We see lots of “imagine what they’d do with IU’s resources” about various random coaches, but Beard’s P5 results at schools without IU’s resources get cast aside. He’s 11-5 in the NCAA tournament. Never lost in the first round. The one time he was at a school arguably comparable to IU in UT, he had a great team assembled by year two. I see no reason why he can’t do extremely well on the court at IU with the millions of dollars we have in NIL. Just look at what he’s doing at a non-basketball school in year 2 in a better conference now at Ole Miss.

His Texas team his second year was really good. Was 7-1 with two non conference wins over elite eight teams (Creighton and Gonzaga) at the time he was fired. Texas ended up finishing the year 29-9 and made the elite eight. Obviously Beard didn’t lead them there, but Rodney Terry’s results since then suggest it was the players and not his stellar coaching that got them there… Beard assembled that team. And criticizing him for Ole Miss is silly. Hes T-5th and 10-7 in the best conference in the country in his second season at a school that doesn’t give a crap about basketball.

Only Beard and his then fiancée know what happened that night. Was it a one time thing? Was this something he’s done before? Is he the stereotypical 1950s partner who slaps his partner around when his dinner is a few minutes late? We don’t know. Sometimes relationships are toxic and people do regrettable, uncharacteristic things in them. I think I read on here that his partner also had a past history of DV, but I could be mistaken. It’s not hard to imagine a set of circumstances that would lead to a drunken fight between partners. It doesn’t excuse his actions. We have free will. He could’ve chosen to remove himself from the situation. He didn’t, and he’s faced the consequences for that decision. The backstory doesn’t matter to some and I understand that, but I do think it’s important when you’re assessing the likelihood of it happening again. And if people think it’s disqualifying on its own and it doesn’t matter whether he’s likely to do it again, I have no problem with that view. I’m not clamoring for Beard as the #1 option. If we can hire someone as good or better, awesome! I’ll just be highly frustrated if Dolson passes on Beard to hire a Brownell.

You’re not missing anything on the video. The tweeter posted the back story and it’s a complete nothing burger. All it tells us is that Chris Beard was absolutely hammered around Christmas 2020, which everyone already knew he liked to do.

Lol for real. If I’m looking for input on a basketball coach (or many other things), the college professor bloc is probably the last place I’m looking. The fact they’re trying to remove Whitten says it all.