JSHoosier

The answer is both.  He was...complex.  His issues had issues, but from a pure coaching perspective the man had few equals.

Not a chance.  He's good at talking, and he's done it for 8 years.  I don't care about the talk, he needs to put up or shut up.

She could've had more points but her touch was a little off.  Had several close shots just bounce off the rim.  Her shot definitely still needs work though.   She had a pretty off ball move in the 4th.  Jab stepped toward the wing then took off on a backdoor cut for a reverse layup.

"Sounds perfect.  Where's he from" "Kazakhstan...." "Huh, never heard of it.  No matter, I'll find it!"   /pulls out phone "Hey Brad, yeah he's gone; it's all yours.  He's going to look for Ivan Renko." "Seriously?" "Yeah..." "I can't believe he still fell for that.  Where'd you send him?" "The glorious nation of Kazakhstan." "That's a horrible thing to do." "It was either that or I was going to throw his chair with him in it.  If he sat down long enough."       Man, this one about killed me.  Well done, sir, well done.

/unforced turnover /player pulled "I would've let him play through it." "That's why you're teams don't value the ball.  I also didn't ask you, and now you're standing again I SAID SIT DOWN" "Just giving my opinion on how to coach MY team." "When I want your opinion I'll give you one; this isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship.  Now sit down and shut up."

"It's diet Coke and I went to the Final Four with Dwayne Wade, I think I know what I'm doing." "I went undefeated and I don't care what you're name is, Jim." "IT'S TOM!" "Jim, John, Tom.  Whatever." "Jim and John are my brothers-in-law.  You know, the Harbaughs?" "I still don't care."   /bad call /clapping "WHY THE F*** ARE YOU CLAPPING  ABOUT THAT?!?!"

"Coach, I think we should try switching defenses in the middle of a possession.  It might confuse the other team." "No, only you think that's a good idea.  I thought I told you to find a seat?"

That's a W in the books.  Buss put the team on her back in the 4th and defense stepped up in OT to hold on.

We need someone to guard #3 on Michigan.  Gassion isn't getting it done, at all.

That was a new one.  Tyra Buss knocks away a pass, it bounces off the ref who was standing out of bounds and the play was never whistled dead.

This game is tied because of Buss.  She put the ladies on her shoulders in this quarter.

I want Watts and one of the RBs.

The ladies look bad right now.  Really need Buss to step up and make her presence felt.   And friggin' turnovers.

Okay hold up.  Michigan took out Rustofsky(?) and put in Rusofsky(?).  Okay, they're just trolling people now.

#3 for Mich is kind of cute.

Buss has had a quiet game so far and she's been called for charging twice already.

Not even 2 minutes in and we already have one of Michigan's starters in foul trouble.

I'll be watching.  Buss is putting up the points this year, and with a larger sample size her shooting numbers are improved over last season; still not good, but improving.  Hopefully that trend continues.

Tried, but they got leaked.

At this point I can't even say I'm in this camp.  He's completely lost me.

I said in those pages Vonleh's team was undisciplined, sloppy and at times downright lazy.  Flash forward to now and the team is undisciplined, sloppy and at times downright lazy with the added bonus of thinking defense is de-thing that goes around de-house.

I read through the first few pages again, and wow things have changed.  I went from "he shouldn't be fired yet" to "so, has he been fired yet?".   I also totally forgot this thread started in Vonleh's only season.

"The bench wasn't loud enough".  Seems like we've heard that one before.  Did he also say the lights were too bright?

At this point the best thing would be for him to just be honest.  It's rumored he tried to sweep Troy and Stan's first failed drugs tests under the rug, if he did it again it should be a guarantee that he's gone.   Frankly, if I was AD and found out he tried it I'd be tempted to fire him on the spot.

He'd better not.  It's been a complete joke without Zeller and Oladipo.