College Bball Thread

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Same as rpi, Kenpom etc.    not just the Net 

Isn't a rating system yet that puts a real penalty on actually losing.

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15 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Luckily for them, the NET hands out a ton of moral victories. Which is why their net ranking is so high.

Sparty is 16 in Kenpom.  

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Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Isn't a rating system yet that puts a real penalty on actually losing.

SOR.  Strength of Record 

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1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

Uhhhhhh Nebraska?

The bottom of the Big Ten sucks. Like REALLY sucks. And the powers that be are just laughing as they cash their checks. It isn't like they actually watch any of the games.

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Nebraska beating Michigan just before the half…

43-16.

Yikes Juwan. Yikes

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

SOR.  Strength of Record 

Which is still incredibly flawed. Because it still just takes into account the rest of flawed system used. Eventually, something else will be created. Maybe. I think the NCAA likes the NET because they don't have to explain and give out the formula(because I fully believe they rig the absolute hell out of everything they do).

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2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Isn't a rating system yet that puts a real penalty on actually losing.

Also KPI

Sparty is 43 in KPI and 55 in SOR which both are results based 

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Do Indiana and Nebraska basically share the same alternate jerseys?

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Also KPI

Sparty is 43 in KPI and 55 in SOR which both are results based 

43-55 seems a bit more accurate for them.

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Washington st gets a win at Oregon or so I’m told it was on the PAC 12 network so who knows if anyone saw it.   Washington St has put themselves in position to get an at large 

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Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Isn't a rating system yet that puts a real penalty on actually losing.

My WAR system does -- the only efficiency rating used is to gauge the value of a team's opponent.  The margin of victory will not effect a team and all losses result in a drop in war and all wins result in an increase in WAR.  Win values range from +.03 to +.97;  loss values range from -.05 to -.95.

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Washington st gets a win at Oregon or so I’m told it was on the PAC 12 network so who knows if anyone saw it.   Washington St has put themselves in position to get an at large 

About like a blade of grass falling in the yard. No one actually knows.

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Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

My WAR system does -- the only efficiency rating used is to gauge the value of a team's opponent.  The margin of victory will not effect a team and all losses result in a drop in war and all wins result in an increase in WAR.  Win values range from +.03 to +.97;  loss values range from -.05 to -.95.

Where is Michigan State in your rankings?

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1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

43-55 seems a bit more accurate for them.

Results based systems.   Sparty isn’t the only team that has a big gap in the predictives and results based numbers.   Those teams are always hard to seed 

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Results based systems.   Sparty isn’t the only team that has a big gap in the predictives and results based numbers.   Those teams are always hard to seed 

Results normally tell the best story.

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3 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

43-55 seems a bit more accurate for them.

They were 42 in WAR for me entering last Monday.  Their road loss to Minnesota followed by home win against Illinois are just a slight net positive, so they are likely are around the same ranking this week.

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3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Washington st gets a win at Oregon or so I’m told it was on the PAC 12 network so who knows if anyone saw it.   Washington St has put themselves in position to get an at large 

Speaking of the Pac-12... How could they not have forseen everyone leaving? Like you trying to get a TV with... Apple TV. What? You can't complain there is East Coast bias and that no one watches and then take a TV deal with Apple TV... Where literally no one will watch. You already have no one watching and then even less people would watch. Morons. Absolute morons.

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3 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Where is Michigan State in your rankings?

Was posting that right after you asked.  I had Michigan State at 42.  Entering this week, the team's I had ranked near them were Washington State (40), Northwestern (41), Nevada (43), and Texas (44).  

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1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Speaking of the Pac-12... How could they not have forseen everyone leaving? Like you trying to get a TV with... Apple TV. What? You can't complain there is East Coast bias and that no one watches and then take a TV deal with Apple TV... Where literally no one will watch. You already have no one watching and then even less people would watch. Morons. Absolute morons.

Morons was them turning down the espn contract before that.  The guy in charge oversold what they were worth.  They burned themselves 

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Morons was them turning down the espn contract before that.  The guy in charge oversold what they were worth.  They burned themselves 

Teams that have to be pissed are Oregon State and Washington State.  They'll go into the Mountain West Conference where their football programs will take a huge financial  hit.