Vonleh Talks About NBA Choice

[lemans71 21]

[quote name="323SGrant" post="54404" timestamp="1395928564"]I would have liked CTC to experiment with Fischer at the five (before he left) and Vonleh at the four to see if that combination would have been successful.[/quote]Crean has never tried to play two true bigs together. He didn't play Cody and Hanner together last year ever and he didn't play Noah and Hanner together this year. I'm not saying it would or wouldn't have worked, but at some point why not try? I don't want to start another criticize CTC outrage from all the starry-eyed supporters, but I think this is another reason for some CTC criticism... And no guys, Jeffey Howard doesn't count but he has my respect for always playing hard.


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[TheWatShot 13,632]

You'd think with Crean's random rapid-fire substitutions that he'd accidentally stumble upon a combination that included two bigs at some point. 

[JSHoosier 19,816]

Crean has never tried to play two true bigs together. He didn't play Cody and Hanner together last year ever and he didn't play Noah and Hanner together this year. I'm not saying it would or wouldn't have worked, but at some point why not try? I don't want to start another criticize CTC outrage from all the starry-eyed supporters, but I think this is another reason for some CTC criticism... And no guys, Jeffey Howard doesn't count but he has my respect for always playing hard.


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Uh, to be fair Hanner had no business playing at all last year.

[JSHoosier 19,816]

You'd think with Crean's random rapid-fire substitutions that he'd accidentally stumble upon a combination that included two bigs at some point. 

If it's not in the binder, it won't happen.

[TheStillman 991]

[quote name="basketball4u" post="54780" timestamp="1395971108"]He is the best ever... Considering there was only a few days off for Christmas and he was wanting to get a workout in speaks volumes. Insight ..came in to get pizza after the game ...someone says only mushroom left (kidding of course) he says politely "thanks. I think I'll pass" Just a prize waiting for someone!


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What's the insight here? Noah doesn't like mushroom pizza?


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[lemans71 21]

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="54813" timestamp="1395977187"]Uh, to be fair Hanner had no business playing at all last year.[/quote]Well why not, Crean kept telling everyone he was the most athletic guy on the team right??? and everybody was made to believe that he was gonna be a stud...he's obviously improved some(keyword some) this year, so why not with Noah?


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[TheStillman 991]

[quote name="lemans71" post="54819" timestamp="1395978036"]Well why not, Crean kept telling everyone he was the most athletic guy on the team right??? and everybody was made to believe that he was gonna be a stud...he's obviously improved some(keyword some) this year, so why not with Noah?


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The hype of Hanner had much less to do with Crean and much more to do with fans salivating over highlight videos. The revisionist history that Crean hyped Hanner is comical. It was all fans on message boards like this one!


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[lemans71 21]

[quote name="TheStillman" post="54821" timestamp="1395978164"]The hype of Hanner had much less to do with Crean and much more to do with fans salivating over highlight videos. The revisionist history that Crean hyped Hanner is comical. It was all fans on message boards like this one!


Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners[/quote]I agree fans had some to do with it, but so did the "experts" with the RSCI that rated him as top 50! Another great quote from Dan Dakich to set the records straight... "having hanner listed as a top 50 recruit is an insult to the other 49 guys on that list." Dan always says what he's thinking that's for sure.


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[JSHoosier 19,816]

Well why not, Crean kept telling everyone he was the most athletic guy on the team right??? and everybody was made to believe that he was gonna be a stud...he's obviously improved some(keyword some) this year, so why not with Noah?


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I still didn't trust Hanner on the court this year, plus if he played alongside Noah there was no one to back up at the 5 unless you wanted Howard getting more minutes.  Hanner was and is highly athletic, but being athletic does not equate to being able to play the game of basketball and last year Hanner had no idea at all of what he was supposed to do on the court.  Being an "athlete" and being a "basketball player" are two completely different things.

 

To avoid quoting you again I'll use this post to address his ranking.  His ranking was based 100% on his potential, not on how good he was at the time.  Hanner did not grow up playing this game, he'd only been playing for a few years when he got here, so his feel for the game is pretty far behind the kids that did grow up playing.  Plus he's trying to learn a position with a bigger learning curve and that just puts him even more behind the 8 ball.  I saw him play at LaLu and I knew from watching him in a game, not highlights, that he wouldn't be much of a contributor until he was a junior at best.  He is athletic but he is raw, very raw.

[lemans71 21]

I agree and that's why I used athletic in quotes as a joke.


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[lemans71 21]

[quote name="lemans71" post="54846" timestamp="1395982728"]I agree and that's why I used athletic in quotes as a joke.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote]Should have used athletic in quotes.


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[Basketball4iU 2,006]

[quote name="TheStillman" post="54817" timestamp="1395977621"]What's the insight here? Noah doesn't like mushroom pizza?


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No, the insight is he would walk out without getting anything to eat and his naivety that there wouldn't be anything but mushroom pizza left when there are 15 full pizzas left. They all get a a full size pizza and/or a sandwich. Everyone else feels so entitled to what they want. He was always polite and had no expectations. I am a big fan!



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[TheStillman 991]

[quote name="basketball4u" post="54848" timestamp="1395982962"]No, the insight is he would walk out without getting anything to eat and his naivety that there wouldn't be anything but mushroom pizza left when there are 15 full pizzas left. They all get a a full size pizza and/or a sandwich. Everyone else feels so entitled to what they want. He was always polite and had no expectations. I am a big fan!



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His only expectation was playing on the wing more!


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[JohnHellman 11]

I agree. I think if he would have played Noah and Hanner together more it would have opened up more spacing on the floor for driving lanes. Cuz I'm sorry but let's face it Noah would rather play a four. He's a stretch big guy. If he can step out and shoot the three then why not try to true bigs?


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