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Related, when Galloway is back, hopefully tomorrow, i would love to see him used baseline like how Troy was used offensively. There are similarities to their games, both explosive “downhill” to the rim, Galloway has shown a strong baseline drive to a reverse dunk, he should be poised for it regularly

Agree, I don’t think people are really saying we’re better without TJD (haven’t read through the thread though), it’s that we’re forcing the O through him and not running actual inside-out or opening up the lane by spread or the wing with more shooting. The offense becomes predictable and because Kopp doesn’t put it on the floor well guarding the limited shooting we show is often easy. There’s no question we lose that PU game but for TJD’s foul trouble. It wasn’t just that Rob went off it was Rob and X’s guard game with shooting that PU couldn’t handle. And we just beat MD for that matter with a guard game - shooting and movement, along with both Race and TJD inside, it’s balance, not just standing outside and watching TJD attacking the basket.

Any word on Galloway?

Goes directly to the points about Woodson being stubborn and repeatedly playing the same starting lineup, to start the 2nd half, no matter what is happening in the game. He/the staff do make adjustments, but almost invariably not to start the 2nd half, and I would bet that is what is driving this picture as to offensive adjustments.

^^ "The other B1G teams know that when the ball goes in, the ball will generally not come back out and he is going to try to go left or the ball will come back out on the same side of the court which is easy to recover on defensively." This is spot on, imo. TJD is hands down our best player, but we beat PU because he was on the bench and we went to a guard's game with Rob and X, and PU couldn't handle it. We need to diversify the O with outside shooting, with actual inside-out play, it's that's simple, we generally lose when we just continue pounding it inside unless the other team is just lacking inside.

Rutgers has some strong wins recently, but only away win was against Wisc (yeah wish we'd won that but still) February: Lost at NWU (OT, 79-78), beat Wisc at Wisc (73-65), lost to PU on Sunday at PU (84-72) Won home games - MSU (84-63), OSU (66-64), Ill (70-59) They play at Mich today, will be interesting to see how that away game goes

IU 71 MD 61

10-15% seems exceptionally low to me, but we'll see. Rutgers can be tough, but it's at home. Minny is OK, but it's on the road. We should've won the game against OSU. I think we pull it out.

Agree. We're all really frustrated, a 5-game losing streak is hard to take and has our NCAA hopes in limbo after looking great earlier, but I think we win 3 of the next 4 -- I don't think I'm wearing crimson glasses, I just think the home W's will get the team going again, until we lose at PU. Then, we probably need at least 1 W in the B1G tourney, maybe, not sure, but anyway, it's time to start winning again, and winning and getting back to the tourney should turn things back around. And if Rob can just get back, that would help a Hell of a lot. We're really missing him.

This is worse - from ITH: "Indiana has now lost five straight. It’s a sixth straight game under a point per possession for the offense, a feat that happened just once in the Archie Miller era." The failure of this staff to push the outside game is extremely frustrating. We hit some threes in this game, interestingly both IU and OSU hit 6-19 3's (31%), but we ended up 34% FG's to OSU's 48%. Our D has developed well, our O has not. The idea that the players are just 'behind' on O is an empty one. The staff / Woodson continues with Kopp when he's not shooting or contributing much offensively, that's on the staff. Why did G only play 4 minutes in this game?

I would bank on Bates, kid's had an up and down year and kind of hit the frosh wall, but he's good and will develop well imo

So if we win 3 of the next 4 (i think we will), what do our tournament chances look like? Do we necessarily have to win at least 1 in the BTT?

I said he was stubborn earlier, it didn’t go well, but the thing is, he is. I believe he’s capable of growing the program back, but the continuing stubbornness is a problem

And it’s head scratching, why not have G start, or Bates, with Galloway out? Not getting the repeat starters no matter what

Ha! I’m in the 20’s - while picking with my heart and against the odds all year! Real gamblers say screw the odds lol

Well that's what happens when you go on a 4-game losing streak and including a game we should've won, but for multiple suspensions, at NWU. It's going to look dicey until we start winning again. Hope that happens tonight, but regardless need to win another 3 -- I think we will, and then we'll be in better (but not certain) shape, with the B1G tourney starting.

I said I don't care where I end up in this 'league' -- yep, I don't. O$U is a 6-point favorite, it's at O$U. So, I'll go with the unlikely, but what I hope for IU 69 OSU 67

You think it was major? Ok

Doesn’t answer my question. Ok calling it a night — goodnight —

Fair, but i guess they had a point guard and 5 is more than 3. I mean do you really think our missing all 5 including our point guard didn’t make it much less likely we’d win? Whether benching all 5 was right to me is just a matter of opinion, but i dont know how anyone can actually believe missing all 5 wasn’t a major crutch

Your opinion. We disagree. Coaches often run players etc for rules violations, they don’t often sit 5 players for what was a relatively minor team rules violation. i said I believe in Woodson long term, but i think this was just a bad, stubborn decision, and an unnecessarily costly one.

I don’t follow the attempt to spin it to what have they done to deserve leniency. That’s just not the point. The point is whether suspending all 5 for what was a minor rules violation in a key game was excessive and poorly thought out. To me it was, to you it wasn’t— that’s ok. And i watched the game, we would’ve won with the missing 5 players. if you want to spin it, how about giving examples of college teams who went into a game missing 5 contributing players, including their starting — really only - point guard and won? Good hunting. Or, how did the Galloway point guard conversation go? Yeah, of course missing all 5 made it much less likely we’d win

Yeah this is where we just disagree — which is fine, reasonable disagreement. The violation was minor, the punishment may end up tanking the whole season. To me that’s no bueno, stubbornness over everything.

Who’s acting? you really think missing all 5 players didnt cause that loss? Was Galloway about ready to drop dead, completely gassed before he fouled out because he had to play what was for him extreme minutes? Didn’t effect the outcome? Of course it did

Addressed this already but there are all kinds if punishments used by coaches short of benching 5 players and causing a loss. Early morning practices with sprints etc. that’s pretty common, happens with other teams a lot. But we have to bench 5? this penalized the whole team by causing a loss and just maybe missing the ncaa tourney. Attitude? It’s not an attitude, it’s about what the appropriate penalty or punishment was for what was a relatively minor team rule violation. Like i said, may not be popular, but it’s not about attitude