IUrocker

Obviously people think Crean had it way worse when he took the IU job when Archie did based off talent level...Archie had more talent than Crean had, yada yada, which is true. Well at least Crean had players that wanted to be there and played hard for their coach. Even though Crean had less talent, what Archie seems to be going through with his hands being tied with who he could and couldn’t have on the team and dealing with their attitudes and lack of effort can be just as bad. To think if Archie was able to have things how he wanted it when he got here by getting rid of a handful of guys he didn’t see fit right off the bat, things would obviously be way different than they are now and we most likely wouldn’t be dealing with any of the lack of effort levels and attitudes we are now. Heck I feel just as bad for Archie than I did for Crean when he first took over the program.....and then to realize Crean and Glass may have f’ed up the APR so bad that Archie had to deal with having his hands tied and keep players around that probably didn’t want to be there and since they had to stay, affecting their attitudes towards the new coach, makes me feel MORE sorry for Archie. This roster management really is probably a nightmare scenario for Archie knowing he’s got a bunch of kids he calls quiet and lack leadership, etc. These first couple years have been a do what you can with what you’ve got type of thing, and this year really endes up being bad because the negative attitudes really came out into the open. Props to Archie for keeping calm and dealing with it like a professional until the end of the season.

If the cancers from this team are gone next year and they were ones who treated Romeo like crap...any chance he stays next year to play with TJD, Armaan, and Keion (if he comes) and have a more enjoyable, successful experience?

I wasn’t saying he was a risky pickup, and understand how and why we got him...just that he ended up not being the type of player we thought he could be for us.

Even though Keion may know there is trouble in the locker room, I’m certain the coaching staff has told him they will be gone and all will be way different next year if he comes to IU. He has been reassured they are well aware of the problem we have going on and he wouldn’t have to deal with it at all next year.

Ah gotcha, thanks. I thought I saw somewhere it was when he turned it over by a bad pass out of bounds or something.

Makes you wonder if Archie is hesitant and uncomfortable with getting rid of them knowing they aren’t his players, when you would hope to see it as happening the other way where he would have no problem with it because he didn’t invest in recruiting them so he’d flat out be willing to tell them hey, it’s unacceptable for you to act like this, you’re obviously unwilling to show you care, so be gone. Like I said, he must just be trying to bite his tongue until the end of the season. I get it in a way, but at the same time I don’t because it’s allowing them to keep on with the ridiculous antics.

I was holding back to not shout out names until now as well, but to see Green and Smith act like this is down right ridiculous. At this point i don’t care if they give us a better chance to win a couple games than someone on the bench. They don’t deserve to play and be on this team acting like that and them continuing to get to play and be here is just allowing them to continue to spread the cancer to everyone by being disrespectful and worthless. If Archie knows they will be gone and if they know they will be gone, then just sit them. They are obviously not gonna care at all about what they do out on the court if they plan on not being here anyways. Maybe the whole plan is for them to play on and keep things quiet until the end of the season in hopes it doesn’t screw anything up, but they don’t have the right attitudes to make that a successful thing. If at this point they are just going through the motions to get the season over with and doing it by being immature smart a**es and disrespectful then to heck with them, get them the heck out.

Coach got them to play great D and with intensity, we just need a freakin roster of players who can shoot the basketball.

Dang Juwan

Kline and those straight on top of the key daggers. The screens they set up for him get him a look every time

Finally Smith...just don’t get too cocky with it now and screw something up. Just because you made that, don’t go start playing hero ball because it’s not gonna work

You’re not MJ, Smith!! take a couple dribbles first and get a little closer before u go up for that!

Smith not there to defend that 3....

My gosh do I hope this is a case of Jerry getting false leaked information on purpose to make him think Keion is now leaning Kentucky...

Is the flip legit with this one, or are you saying this with sarcasm? Darn text I can’t tell!! Lol Has Jerry ever flipped like this and been dead wrong? I’d like to think he has.

Someone on the other site just posted that he was told Brooks called the staff on the way back to Indiana letting them know he was going to Kentucky, official announcement in a week....but it was the person’s very first post...never seen before..lol

Now I know, I know, this is really thinking deep and just trying to make the situation positive and could for sure be way off...but...what if he cancelled the MSU visit after visiting Kentucky to throw the smoke of making people think he must have liked what he saw at Kentucky and will choose them, when really he still plans on coming to IU and he’s just making people assume and think he’s going to Kentucky. Then surprise, I’m coming to IU because I know they need me and my buddy TJ and I along with everyone else new on the roster NOT causing problems can get this back on track. Maybe I’m still asleep and typing this as I dream, ha.

In my opinion I just think players have mailed it in. They don’t give a damn because they may be aware of changes that are happening with behind the scenes stuff...I can definitely see this being a matter of Archie is still recruiting players for next year as replacements, and guys know it. (of course it’s not my place to name names and speculate). This team’s effort, attitude, heart, you name it is ridiculous.

Obviously these made 3’s by Minnesota are ridiculous, but this IU team is softer than Charmin...I guarantee it drives Archie nuts to not have guys get mean and play with freakin passion and the refuse to lose attitude. Everything looks so half-a**. It’s frustrating to see us play all these teams who have no name recruits play with fire and beat us up. In my opinion, changes are probably gonna be made, and players know it, so in the back of their minds maybe the rest of this season is just Meh to them.

It took Carsen Edwards 27 (!!) shots to get 24 points. Just doesn’t look as impressive to be averaging what he does knowing he is shooting it that many times to try to get there. In comparison, Langford shot the ball the most in our last game with 13 shots.

Thing is, if it was just a player trying to hold some guys with issues accountable, are those guys gonna react positively and take it as motivation and the kick in the rear they needed, or are they gonna take it negatively and cry about it, being the softies a lot of people think they are, and react in a bad way because they didn’t enjoy being called out and getting their widdle feewings hurt. Depending which way that goes could drastically change the effort level we see the remainder of the season (not that the effort level was up there in the acceptable range to begin with)....unless it ends up being something Archie rids of right away and says enough is enough.

Need a couple snipers on next year’s team. I don’t care if they don’t have 5 stars next to their name. The ones who don’t are usually the ones who play with heart and have something to prove anyways. Jordan Bohannon was ranked as the #312 player in the country coming out of high school and look what he did to IU tonight. Dude can shoot. It’s crazy how it always ends up being those guys who end up lighting it up against us.

Unleash the Franimal

I had always said I trust Archie....and then Evan Fitzner happened....but i'm still gonna go ahead and trust Archie, haha.

We probably end up miraculously playing well, but refs won’t make Izzo lose on College Gameday.....part of me is joking, but then again...