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I am almost certain it is indeed blood clots as has been rumored. Cannot say that with 100% certainty but from what I heard I am reasonably sure (75-80%) that is accurate.

LOL Sparty. That was pretty bad.

Huge and signature win of the Aird era so far against a rival. Still not sure yet how good of a coach he is or if program will succeed under him but this is a great step forward.

As bad as this was for us, Illinois and Maryland had bigger embarrassments as Illini lost to Eastern Michigan at home and everyone's early darling Maryland lost at Temple. Very IU like what Maryland did having a high moment against a good Syracuse team then lay an absolute egg with their hyped offense against a mediocre team.

Not sure we see Penix for a bit from what I am hearing. Hope I am wrong. With that said will probably beat UConn and lose to MSU regardless of who QB's. Hopefully Penix back after bye which is when that will make a difference.

Maryland? We have beaten them a few times and they look bad today against a mediocre Temple team.

SIlver lining today: Maryland has come back to earth today so maybe that game will be winnable after all.

Tuttle didn't look any better.

Here's the thing fair or not: IU is ultimately driven by basketball. If Archie succeeds and Allen fails everyone will be happy and everything will be good. If Allen succeeds and Archie fails people will still only be happy to a point. Glass' tenure will ultimately be judged by the success or failure of Archie. With that said doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't try to be competitive in football.

People who I know who are closer to the athletic department then I am think Archie will be right guy and Allen is a joke. Not sure who is right yet and its all a big guess but that's how a lot of people I know feel.

Yup and when they get poached got to hire the next right guy as IU did with Baseball or Butler does with Basketball and the train starts chugging along. I'm shocked Pat Fitzgerald hasn't been poached but lucky for NW.

I do completely agree history means nothing and the right coach can win anywhere. Just look at our baseball program. We got the right guy in Tracy Smith (which let us make 2 more right hires when he was poached) and turned around 100 years of futility and now we are the best team in the Big Ten. The key is find the right guy whoever that is and follow it up with more good hires when/if they get poached. Butler Basketball has followed that model. With all that said not quite ready to judge Allen yet but early returns are not great so far.

I never liked Scott. There were to many times last yr when he was bottled up by average D's (I.E. Rutgers). Now teams have caught on. Hopefully James is the real deal eventually and I like Walker. Never been impressed with Scott or Gest even when they do well.

Tuttle is worse right now. He played against Eastern Illinois and looked worse then Ramsey. I don't like Ramsey at all but he's best we've got among those guys as long as Penix is out.

Where has that creative trick play calling been? That's something you could of tried when game was competitive.

yup tons of empty seats. Basically the 3-5K IU shows not selling on website.

There are still tons of tickets left for today (maybe 3-5K) on the IU website. Will be a larger crowd than usual for sure (45-50K) but unless there is a huge walk-up contingent this may not quite sellout like a normal OSU game. Btw last time ticket sales at this level was in 2012 when only 48K showed up and it was fall break. May see similar today.

Great. That helps for one week for a game that is already going to sell out anyways. Doesn't help ticket sales the rest of year when people figure it out Saturday and then people feel they are lied to and less likely to come back. Sometimes I wonder about the people at IU making decisions.

If that is the case IU has to have the stupidest Athletic department ever in light of Andrew Luck injury. When IU is trying to build a program to outright lie about Penix's injury is the worst PR move they could make to build a fan base. Sometimes I wonder who runs the athletic department at IU and what they are thinking. If it is a major injury fine but for Allen to outright lie about it in light of Luck situation could not be more dumb when Indiana fans are already Leary of what they are being sold about injuries. Also that's fine IU was upset it got out but what was their plan if it didn't? Surely people would of figured it out when he wasn't playing Saturday. Whats the difference if it leaks Wednesday or people find out Saturday?

Interestingly Kent Sterling said he heard the injury was season ending: That's the first I have heard anyone say that and everything I have heard both through chatter and Allen is it should be minor. I hope Sterling misspoke or IU is going to be in a lot of hell with fans in light of what happened with Luck. To me though no matter what a red flag has been raised if Penix can stay healthy long term. He did nothing that should hurt your shoulder at all. If his shoulder cannot handle two games, could be a rough career in the training room.

I am going to move away from this debate about Ramsey vs. Penix and bring up another issue this might reveal. The fact that Penix already has a sore shoulder after two games may not speak well for his long term durability. Already tore his ACL last year which is completely unrelated I get, but that in light of already having a shoulder issue after such a short time doesn't necessarily speak well for staying healthy for extended periods of time over upcoming seasons.

Rumors seem to refer to a sore shoulder from everything I've read unless you have seen differently.

Guess its a lesson to media to always ask why a player came out early regardless of how innocent it seems. I like the IU media for the most part but they dropped the ball here a bit.

You have been trustworthy and I completely believe you but this shows we have some pretty lackadaisical media. If he left game early and is now not practicing at least ask Tom Allen if he is injured? He may decline to say anything or fudge and say he is OK but at least hold the coaches feet to the fire and ask about this. Thats a pretty big deal if your starting QB is not practicing and the fact that no one is reporting it or breached the topic speaks pretty poorly on the IU media.

Luck picked a hell of a time to retire. The roster for the Colts is actually solid now and everything they were missing they now have with a good running back, good receivers and a decent D. This is the type of roster Manning won with and Luck could of as well and would of been a clear contender with him. Brissett is decent and this is still a 7-10 win team but he's never going to win you a Championship which Luck could of now with this roster. Also time for Vinatieri to retire or show he has not hit father time moving forward.