Aaron

Can people just stop with Rakestraw. He's a great guy and I know him a bit personally. Just because he has been told something that may be incorrect does not mean he is being a contrarian or hates IU. Guy is a class act who is reporting what he has been told. Dakich is a complete hack (and I know this as well from a family friend who knows him) and should be criticized but people need to leave Raekstraw alone just because he is reporting and been told something different than what is currently out there. Also the fact that he's telling you he hopes he's wrong obviously means he hopes he goes to IU even though he was told differently. I hope you all realize if were not for Raekstraw 1070 (outside of Dakich) would be almost all Colts and Pacers and no college talk. He is the one that has pushed Grady and JMV to talk more IU, PU and Butler (and as station manger he has that power) and is a huge college fan and very knowledgeable about all things college including IU. Love listening him.

I am not comfortable with anything we have been told about this situation. I am not accusing IU of lying but how did we go from suspension to under the weather to a 2 week foot injury within the span of a few days? Maybe all 3 happened at once simultaneously and they suspended him a game than he was under the weather a game and than hurt his foot and has been out since but I feel like there's something behind the curtain here that has not been pulled back yet potentially.

Congrats to the ladies. Unfortunately, I have been traveling than busy so saw none of any game in WNIT except a small part of TCU (as well as followed parts of UC Davis and Va Tech on twitter). Very cool to see the shots of the crowd throughout the tourney from pictures. Never thought I'd see the day where a women's game had a full lower level and people in the balcony which was awesome. I would say when counting actual people in the building that was the 4th largest crowd of the year men or women yesterday behind Duke, PU and MSU for the men. Again congrats to the ladies and glad we sent Buss out with a banner as the greatest player in women's history.

I know Raekstraw a little bit and can tell you he is a fan of all college basketball and certainly does not hate IU (not a fan of team either). Just because he has some info that may or may not be correct doesn't mean he is ant-IU. He is a stand up guy and I believe him when he says he was told Romeo is going to Vandy. Doesn't mean its true or the person that gave him this is correct. He is just saying what he is being told which he is allowed to do. Doesn't mean he hates IU or wants him to stay down.

Ugh Victor. Game number 4 for me last night and he still has not performed well in any of them. Whole team didn't perform last night and I am now 1-3. It's to bad because last time I went against Memphis I said crowd could not even get into it late in a close game. Last night the crowd tried to get the Pacers back into it and was louder the couple times the Pacers cut it to single digits in the third quarter than at any point against Memphis. If this were a close game down stretch crowd actually would of been a factor. Overall its been a great year for Pacers but my pick of games has been most unlucky (blown out by Portland, lose to bad Dallas team, barely beat terrible Memphis and blown out by Utah) and Victor has been bad in 3 and missed 1.

Depends on the game and I was at everyone. Certainly there were times the crowd was not as loud but for PU, MSU, Duke, OSU and Maryland the crowds were very loud and into the game. I don't think the crowds are as consistently loud since we have struggled so much lately but a high level game or a close game late is as electric as it's always been.

Great try but we got the season together to late. If we played like we did all year since at MSU which started the long winning streak game we are in NCAA tourney. We were exhausted by the 4th quarter but hung in there. I really think we have a good chance tonight if we put away MSU early yesterday as we should of. Season is not over as we will make the WNIT which we have a good chance to win (64 teams no seeds, no auto bids and any over .500 power 5 teams pretty much get in and usually hosts so home games coming as long as we can win). Despite tourney being in Indy almost every year its only the second time we've played in night session that I've gotten to go (was busy last night) since I moved here to Indy and graduated IU 8 years ago. OK crowd but certainly program history reflects size of our crowd. We had about 2 sections in lower level of all IU fans and a few others scattered around the lower level (was about 60-20-20 IU, Maryland and other teams fans combined respectively). Overall only 6 side line sections on lower level were fairly full with rest of Fieldhouse mostly empty. I can tell you due to a much better history and recent success the many IU soccer games at Grand Park, the IU Butler soccer games at Butler and the yearly IU baseball game at Victory Field draw more IU fans than this did.

Sean went 16-15 first year like Archie and taken off since. Don't want the cheating but he's won big since in 8 years with 5 conference championships and 3 elite 8's and 2 additional Sweet 16's. Remove the improprieties and i'll gladly take Archie matching those results next 8 years. They certainly had identical records and seasons in every way their first years.

Well we exhausted ourselves to the point where we may have nothing left for Maryland tomorrow but great win. This team has no depth with 5 good starters (including 3 superstars or near superstars) and 1 occasional sub off bench and that's it.

We were so lucky the clock malfunctioned. As I have said though this team is super dumb. 2 chances to win with shot clock off and both time MSU gets the ball back with under 5 seconds because of a turnover.

That was the most pathetic celebration by MSU after clinching Big Ten title. Wonder if they are worried it will be vacated for having ineligible players or Izzo is trying to keep them focused for bigger things. Either way most laid back excitement I've seen after winning a Big Ten Championship.

Good point. I should of said rewinding back to 2008.

I was there and atmosphere was good and the place was very loud in crunch time so you are incorrect there. People stood almost the whole way from about 10 minutes in the second half right until the end of the second OT. The only problem were the balconies were almost empty again although the main level was packed unlike the Illinois game. Winning will take care of all of this though.

This game feels like a bad case of deja vu with some key differences. I am fast forwarding back to Feb 13 2008. This was the day they implicated Sampson and his recruiting violations went public. Later that night Brian Butch beat us on a 3 with about 4.5 seconds left that cost us Big Ten Title when we had just taken the lead a few seconds earlier in a back and forth game. Also throw in that my buddy who I was at the game with had a bit of a flu and upset stomach he was recovering from. Now fast forward to tonight and we lose on a 3 with 1.6 seconds left from about the same spot but a couple feet further out (only other time since we have lost a lead at home with under 10 seconds left was atrocious PSU meltdown in 14) after taking lead a few seconds earlier. Also IU gets somewhat implicated in FBI scandal and I am recovering from a bit of a flu and upset stomach. Obviously a few key differences in that this loss didn't cost us a Big Ten Title or even an NCAA appearance since we are a middling team. Also the implication on the scandal is no where near as bad (yet and hopefully it stays that way) and we are far from the only player so if anything happens to us it will happen to dozens of other programs also. Obviously the 2 nights are not alike in every way but in my world there are some strange similarites.

That's big. If we get 7 much rather play NW than Wiscy. This website is useful for figuring out seeding: http://bball.notnothing.net/big10.php?sport=mbb

You also have to remember IU faces something very unique in that most of the ticket holders like me come from Indy an hour away. Most Northwestern and Illinois Ticket holders live in the city of the game. If this switch occurs you will see even lighter attendance on the 5:30pm and 6pm games and 6:30 is already a problem. I'm curious if IU (along with PU and Butler) would try to fight a move to central time as this could really jeopardize weeknight attendance for some games (tickets would be sold but the no shows would get larger possibly).

I know daylight saving times is a controversial topic so with the debate back in play (there is a bill in the legislator to study a move back to central time) to possibly move to Central Time (which has it advantages and disadvantages) I just want to make sure everyone realizes that this switch would mean 5:30 and 6pm starts now for IU basketball (and 11am and 2:30pm for football) for some of the non-premium games during Big Ten play instead of 6:30 and 7pm. My sister lives in Chicago as an IU grad and she has missed 2 IU NW games she wanted to go to over years since they had 6pm local time starts and she can't leave work that early. Since everything is dictated by TV we may get more late slots but for some of our home games against bottom feeders (PSU, NW etc.) we would be looking at the very early starts. Now vice versa on the good side those 9pm starts for the premium games would now be 8pm which is better so that part is good. Olympic sports would not be affected since those are rarely televised and would usually still start on local time at 7pm since IU controls that.

OSU's loss today means an MSU win against Illinois or an OSU loss to Rutgers ensures OSU cannot celebrate a share of the Big Ten Title on our court as MSU plays next Sunday and OSU will not know if they potentially have a share of the title until then.

A couple things: 1. First off Sean in his first year had a horrible non-conf going 6-6 than had Arizona playing really well down the stretch and finished 10-8 in conference. They than used that as a springboard to 30 wins the following year and have maintained at that level since. So far at least the first year looks exactly the same for Archie as for Sean. Now we need to follow up each year after the same as Sean. 2. Archie's 9 wins in Big Ten play ties 2014-2015 as the most in conference for any year in Crean's tenure save for our 3 excellent years with him. Also the 3 road wins tie 2011-2012 and 2014-2015 for 3rd most in Crean's tenure. Lastly the 2 game sweeps of Iowa and Minnesota are the only time we have 2 game sweeps of 2 different teams in the same year outside of the 3 really good years (only other 2 game sweeps in Crean tenure were Rutgers in 2014-2015 and PSU last year). This team is less talented than any Crean had besides his first 3 years yet Archie is doing things in conference Crean was hardly ever able to. Most importantly we are playing well down the stretch which is something we did only in 2 of Crean's 9 years.

Well you can throw another coach on the list I know personally along with former coach Dunbar that is leaving the department who I like. I have no idea why Joseph left so don't ask as it would be nothing more than a complete guess. This is obviously a very different circumstance than Dunbar but never like to see people who you know personally leave IU athletics. I believe the number of coaches I know in the department is down to 2 now and I have not interacted with either in a very long time. Both Joseph and Dunbar while certainly not people i'm super close with, I have talked to them both a couple times in last year. I am sorry to see both them go.

Everyone deserves blame for last nights atmosphere which was beyond terrible. Students really didn't show up but there were almost as many seats open in the non student sections as well. Also no one made much noise or stood at all even when the game was close later in the second half which is very unusual in similar circumstances. I have never seen an atmosphere this bad save for PSU, Rutgers and cupcake games. I understand Illinois is not good but last night was one of the first times in IU history where I was thoroughly disappointed in the entire crowd in every way given what my expectations were. I have been one of the people defending the crowd in this thread but there was no defense last night.

Trust me Moren is NOT a better coach than Versyp. They are both equally mediocre. If you flipped them between IU and PU, records would probably be about the same still at each school. Versyp has had slightly more success than Moren since PU's pedigree is a lot higher in women's b-ball but she has been a lot less successful than any recent coach they have had in last 30 years. PU Women's Bball is IU soccer and she is their Mike Freitag. They have just stupidly held onto her a lot longer than most programs would given her lack of success and their high standards. In the last 8 years she has missed the tourney twice which is the first time that has happened for them since the early 90's and has not been out of the first weekend in that time. Prior to that between 94 and 09 they had been to 10 Sweet 16's, 8 Elite 8's, 3 Final Fours and a National Championship. Fortunately when IU slipped under Freitag it only took them 5 years to realize they had made a mistake (and Freitag won a title with Yeagley's players unlike Versyp who could only use Curry's players to get as far as the Elite 8). Trust me I love that PU continues to hold onto Versyp and drive their best program into the ground but from an observing standpoint its long past the time to fire her.

Well looks like we may have successfully finished off Sharon Versyp's career in West Lafayette. As I said she is much like PU's Mike Davis winning a ton with Kristi Curry's players for a couple years but has since dragged the program somewhat into the mud by their standards. The last time IU put the final nail in someone's coaching career it was John L. Smith in football after we pummeled MSU in 07 (although I expect Versyp to stick out the year unlike Smith who was fired after the game) and basically sent them back to the top with DiAntonio so I am hoping PU doesn't go out and get a great coach who resurrects what is their best sport historically. I don't feel sorry for Versyp though after what she did to IU after one year. At the time I thought we lost a great coach but given how she can barely tread water at a very successful PU program I have a feeling we would have lost big with her eventually given our somewhat mediocre history. As for IU I am very pleased with the win and think this is very much like IU under Crean 2 years ago where Yogi picked the team up and all of the sudden won big at the end of the year. Only difference is Buss picked up the team a bit to late to win the Big Ten or even get an NCAA Tourney bid but she has put a disastrous season back on the rails and probably saved us a WNIT bid that we could very well win the whole tourney with how well we are playing. I am still not sold on this program long term and see many of the same issues I saw with the Men's team under Crean (a lot of talent with ridiculous turnovers and poor discipline) and am afraid once Buss and Cahill go next year will be in the toilet and probably delayed an inevitable needed coaching move (I hope I am wrong and this really works but I see to many problems). Moren vs Versyp is a lot like what Crean vs Gross was with maybe the two worse coaches in the conference going at it except PU is the one with the historic success instead of us.

Now its official with Reich. Colts announce on website contract signed so there is no backing out this time.

I think this is precisely what it is and what I have been saying. Nobody wants the balcony seats so you might as well sell them to students who may or may not use them then let them be unsold. This will be a great discussion to re-visit in a couple years if students keep not showing up once we get good but based on precedent that will not be the case (05-06 , 07-08, 11-12, 12-13 and 15-16 were the years we were either hyped or became good by the end and each time students filled the seats when this happened) and right now no one else wants them especially in the balcony.