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No Martinez!

Still not sure on Martinez.

Sounds like FIsch was wrong and Martinez plays with brace but that may not make him very dangerous.

Fisch just said Martinez will not play but he was announced as starter at game.

Only good thing I will say is Martinez is supposedly wearing a brace so maybe that limits him and we can win a lower scoring game. Not sure what Penix's issue is. Everything I have heard through back channels suggested concussion but he I am not sure if he is allowed to take snaps pre-game then which he did in limited fashion. Also wearing a small brace on his knee which would suggest knee. I would assume one of the two or both. Either way clearly he is injury prone and we need a reliable backup when Ramsey graduates.

Story of the game: Neb has all of their injured players IU does not so not sure we win. With that said Penix or Ramsey should beat this NW train wreck next week. Don't see Penix returning until after bye which was my gut all along. Probably at 6-3 losing this week and beating NW. Penix returns against PSU where we lose anyways. Then an outside chance vs. Michigan if Penix plays and hopefully a win over an eliminated PU team. Most likely 7-5 or 8-4 with loses today and PSU and wins over NW and PU. Michigan probably a loss but could be a win.

This year so far has been a step backwards in conference which isn't great but Aird deserves time to turn the program around.

They are going to get smoked tonight by Nebraska. Iowa is winnable since they are not good but we threw away two winnable games on road last week and a home game against mediocre Santa Clara early in year. Hopefully being at home finally gets them a win tomorrow. This year is a step backwards so far. Beating Nebraska is to much to ask but they got to seven conference wins last year by beating pretty much all the teams they could on the same level (basically what IU football has done so far). This year they have thrown away three winnable games as I just mentioned. To take the next step you need to beat the teams you are capable of beating constently and this year that has not happened. Hopefully its just a bump though as a young team and ultimately we are on right track which is TBA. Like I said when I listening to the other newer coaches speak I hear a visionary who sounds like the right person. Aird talks a good game but not sure how good of a coach he is just yet as some of his words sound like that a used car salesman ALA Tom Crean. Not sure he is bad or good yet as a coach. We will see. He has brought me more hesitation then some other Glass hires though in Olympic sports which for the most part I have liked.

All concussions are different. Some guys clear it in a few days and practice all week and some take weeks. I have heard it is a concussion he has but have not confirmed. Him practicing this week would not confirm whether he has a concussion or not although it would be a good sign it is a very mild one and will be cleared pretty fast.

I know who he is. He has an IU radio show he does each day online and on a few stations in Southern Indiana and is part of the IU media. How good his sources are I have no idea.

From what I hear Moren is not for everyone and can be a bit difficult to deal with. She is a very good coach (maybe the best the program has had) but if you get on her bad side she will make your life miserable which probably happened here. Someone not playing a lot who feels they should is not gonna be happy here.

Yup. Yeagley isn't exact but the way he handles injuries is more or less the same as other college teams while IU's other programs protect them like the plague.

I am not advocating a position on Allen but does anyone think his obsession with red shirts has hurt us with a few guys? First example is obviously Penix. He was so content on getting him a red shirted last year he didn't play clearly the better QB. What could be ironic here is if Penix stays healthy he could be in pro's after his junior year and this red shirt was never needed. Example two is Matthew Bedford the new offensive tackle. He is clearly our best lineman already even as a freshman replacing Cronk and line is a lot better recently. One wonders if the O-line would of been stronger from beginning if Bedford had taken one of the tackle positions opposite Cronk to start the year rather than Caleb Jones. Example three is Tiwan Mullen. While he was never red shirted he is clearly our best corner already and Allen has been working him in slower then he should over the year in favor of veterans. I can't help but wonder how many other better freshman are on bench because of Allen's obsession with red shirts and working freshman in slowly. Obviously if this is case we will see these guys next couple years and it will be fine. However, one cannot help but wonder if Allen had played some of his top freshman already rather then work them in slowly if we may have been to a couple bowl games given the the end of the Wilson era having inferior talent to the last couple recruiting classes.

I've heard concussion through some back channels but I can in no way confirm this is accurate. I've also heard arm. IU and their mysterious injuries. Why can't everyone be Todd Yeagley and give out for the most part the exact injury and a more formal timeline?

He teases himself and others in jest and doesn't take himself to seriously which is what I like. I wish he tuned down the pop culture a bit but overall he is great and the best show in Indy by far and the only one I will listen to.

JMV. Terrific show. Very level headed and not over dramatic. Really really nice guy also.

Could be. Not doubting at all its the Romeo thing. I have no idea. Just throwing other ideas out.

It also could be him reporting Brohm was leaving PU for Louisville and saying it was an absolute fact. That is certainly missing the mark with reporting and journalistic integrity.

I never said that. I don't know how the Big 10 schedules.

IU NW gets 7pm primetime which says networks maybe believe in IU a bit now?

Pretty sure Penix is in concussion protocol as was said earlier on here. Assuming that is the case knowing IU's overly careful (but not unjustified) mantra with head injuries I would not expect him back until after bye. This is nothing I have heard (the concussion is something I have heard through back channels, but timeline is a guess and absolutely nothing I know at all about) but bracing for dealing with IU and head injuries I would not expect Penix back right away.

Trust me this is the last thing you want. IU is overly protective with head injuries and any concussion will be at least 3-4 weeks. You are much better off with an arm or shoulder injury if its not serious and he misses maybe a week or two or nothing at all. With Penix we easily get a sixth win. With Ramsey its a tossup at best if we win any of the remaining games. Hopefully Ramsey can beat maybe NW if Penix is out in a defensive struggle since NW is horrible offensively. If not hopefully Penix is back after bye (if he misses time) and can lead us to a win over Michigan and PU for either gravy or bowl eligibility. We will not face another team this bad again this year but we have five chances for bowl eligibility which is most since Kellen Lewis days. We've figured out how to beat Maryland and Rutgers with two road wins against them each and a combined 8-4 record since they joined Big Ten. Its four out of five vs. Maryland and four in a row vs. Rutgers so eight of last nine against these two. Now need to beat someone else not named Illinois since they are not on our schedule and look better this year.

Only advantage to Ramsey this game is that with all his dump offs drives will take a lot longer and keep gaming lower scoring. If we can finish drives we will be right there in end but it will be 34-31 instead of 49-42 as we were headed with Penix. D will get longer rests which may help this game only but also puts more pressure on them with fewer opportunities.

Ramsey can make a good throw at times and keep you in games and beat bad teams but will not win you games against decent teams which is what gets you to bowl games. There is a reason Ramsey keeps us competitive but just short of a bowl games. Penix can win you games. With all that said really nice play to end half.

No he is really not. He's OK but he's not a guy who will get you to a bowl game. Dump off central is not going to win you enough. Need a guy like Pigrome (and yes he is a backup) who can either run great and throw on run or a guy like PU has who is a good thrower. Those are good back ups. Ramsey is OK but I wouldn't call him a solid backup.