RaceToTheTop

Man, Bol Bol dropping....

For the time being, the guy who doesn't like it the most is T.J. Leaf. I don't see Bitadzke taking minutes from Sabonis or Turner yet. Anyway, at some point the Pacers are likely to move on from either Sabonis or Turner (Turner would be the assumption) if Goga shows he can handle the minutes.

I can live with the Pacers pick. Still need a better point guard than Collison and maybe Aaron Holiday fills that role....at least more than anyone point guard still left would project to be. Honestly would like to see Carson Edwards there at 32 and take him.

Celtics....seems like a good situation.

I agree that is what Sheehey did best, but he actually did put up a decent amount of perimeter shots. About 30% of his shots were three pointers.

I could be off on this....but from what I've seen statistically and from what his size projects at, his game has a Will Sheehey-like feel. Would this be a fair comp?

NBAdraft.net has an NBA comp for Langford of Evan Turner.

Washington missed most of the season with West Side with a shoulder injury during his freshman year. He didn't play until February and averaged 12 points and 8 rebounds. Ranked as the #1 player in the state for 2022 and #14 nationally by ESPN.

I guess I don't understand how Arizona couldn't be on that list...or how a team that took Curtis Jones in as a transfer could be. ;)

Seems like UCLA's decision to pay recruits under the table in krugerrands finally may pay off.

And it sounds like the schools have big interest....worthy of 20 point font.

Van Zyl did tweet on Monday that he had "great conversations" with Cincinnati and Vanderbilt. I don't doubt at this point that there has been contact between these schools and Van Zyl. We haven't heard anything in terms of offers, so who knows.

I find myself personally in the middle of the optimists and pessimists.....but mostly from the viewpoint that my position doesn't make a difference in reality. If I only looked for the good, as an IU football fan I'd have ulcers by now. What I have found frustrating personally is that it's hard to bring up an optimistic statement on this board without being attacked (and this is 100% not directed on any one individual). I certainly hear the same pessimistic statement/developments as others but those already get covered/stated. Not bringing them up doesn't mean someone hasn't heard them, it just means that I don't have anything more to add to the conversation if it has been discussed fully. Let me bring up a couple of players just for context: DeVonte Green and Justin Smith. I have probably as high of an opinion of Green's game as anybody on here. Conversely, I am a Justin Smith naysayer. But I tend not to add much to the Justin Smith conversations because what I have to say has already been said. I don't talk much about Smith because what I am going to bring up isn't going to add to the conversation....I mean I could say the exact same thing as other people are saying, but it really wouldn't add anything. I'll just like their post and move on. With Green on the other hand, I feel what I put may add to the conversation because it offers an alternate view. I think too often people are getting labeled as optimists or pessimists based on singular statements and people get taken to task when they provide a unique view. I know I've been guilty of that.

I'll take Cal over a guy like Bruce Pearl any day. I don't view Cal as 'shady' anymore (in that I think the illegal stuff was pretty much pre-UK)....everything he seems to be doing is pretty out in the open. He certainly does some things I don't like -- particularly the whole ridiculous luxury housing for the basketball team -- but the things he seems to have been doing at UK are inside of the rules, ethical or not. Pearl on the other hand.....

OT, I saw Newman play several times and he's definitely a good one. I think people are a little bit higher on him as a shooter than I am but I am higher on his ability to get to the hoop than most. I've been trying to find a box score for the Indiana Juniors v Seniors game and have been coming up blank. I did think it was interesting, though, that Galloway (I believe) outscored Leal in the Indiana Jr/St game as well as the Junior game against Kentucky. Galloway might be a really underrated player at this point because he didn't shoot the three all that well in high school play during the season.

From what I saw last year, Hunter is 4'3" if he sits up straight.

I worked as a stringer (free lance sports writer for local teams, reporting on mostly local football games) and you are 100% correct. And sometimes the editor's headlines are in 100% conflict with what the the writer wrote.

Done.

So, you accuse me of making something up you said and when I post the direct quote you don't acknowledge that you were wrong. Don't fret, ebridges, I'm done responding to him. Sorry for the side bar.

Yeah, I'm making things up......... Yeah, I'm the one with issues.

Your first post on the subject: "Out of curiosity what exactly screams contributor to people here? No other schools with interest" I'll sit back and wait how this post doesn't scream of calling it a desperation recruit. So let's add on the following tidbits that you have said here: 1. you are apparently not defining 'creaning' as anyone on here does. 2. you say 'we don't know if Moore, Forrester, and Curtis Jones weren't 'creaned'' 3. you said that Van Zyl didn't have 'other schools with interest' and an insider posts that there are a dozen high majors with interest, that wasn't met with you by 'guess I was wrong', but rather 'which ones?' What you state as being 'realistic' and not 'pessimistic' simply isn't the case. You express possibility of 'creaning' players with no proof while skepticism when someone actually following the situation of Van Zyl says that he is being followed by multiple HMs.

IMO, at most you could say that Miller misjudged on Forrester's desire to do what it was going to take to be on the court.

The point was that brass cannon has been bringing up the narrative of Miller making 'Crean like desperation offers'. That is 100% not the case.

Exactly. Offers for Jake Forrester included: Seton Hall, Indiana, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Arizona State, Vanderbilt, Miami (FL), Minnesota, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Kansas State, Central Florida, Providence, Penn State, and Temple. Ranked #147 by 247 compositie. Offers for Grant Gelon included: No other D1 offers when he signed. Ended up ranked #391. Offers for Tim Priller: Incarnate Word Offers for Jeremiah Priller: Don't think he had any D1 offers. Saying Forrester 'wasn't good' is a ex post facto point. Saying Priller, April, and Grant weren't good was an ipso facto statement. BIG difference. Should also be mentioned that Miller wanted Forrester to redshirt. It was Forrester and his dad that balked at it.

And you wrote it off as a 'Crean like desperation move' on a wasted scholarship player. I think it's ironic that you are saying others jumped the gun. All of this on a guy who doesn't have an offer....