Hoosierfan2017

Would be surprising if true. The golfing in California is probably great this time of year.

His age is incredibly important and it’s silly to claim otherwise. There’s little reason to go through a rebuild with a guy who will be retired in a few years anyway. IU head coach shouldn’t be a lifetime achievement award for guys who played there 40+ years ago.

Your “point” completely ignores all context. If Dan Hurley was 66 years old would they have fired him after his first four seasons? Yeah, probably. They fired Kevin Ollie four years removed from a national championship (you’ll probably say they fired him because of the ncaa investigation, but they’re keeping him if he was delivering results). No one was calling for Archie’s head after year three, and his first three years were worse than Hurley’s. But yes, no big boy program is keeping a 66 year old coach with Woodson’s first three seasons under their belt. No big boy program is hiring Mike Woodson in the first place, but that’s another discussion.

IU hadn’t played in a tournament game since 2016 because a once in a century pandemic canceled the tournament in 2020. He got blown out in the round of 64 his first year, blown out in the round of 32 in his second year, and missed the tournament entirely his third year. Not taking a giant step back in year 3 is certainly something you expect from your aging head coach. But, of course, I’m forgetting that it’s Indiana! Simply making the tournament gets you a hefty raise. Leave your expectations at the door.

Are you intentionally being dense? Coach K was 33 years old when Duke hired him. Mike Woodson is literally double his age. You give a coach time to figure it out when there’s a potential long-term gain for doing so. When he’s a guy who could be around 30+ years. Mike Woodson is 66 years old. Why give him additional time to “figure it out” just in time for retirement when you could fire him and find a potential long-term solution?

Archie had a worse first three seasons than Hurley and few were calling for him to be fired going into his fourth season. So, no, you’re not correct. But when you hire a head coach in his mid-60s you’re kinda banking on immediate success. The clock was ticking from day 1.

So, he improved his overall record and conference record each year, and was under 50 years old at the time? Oh yeah, very comparable to Mike Woodson. Mike Woodson is not the long-term answer for IU. He’s 66 years old. He won’t be around 10 years from now. He probably won’t even be around 5 years from now. There’s zero point in waiting around for a senior citizen coach to “figure it out” when he’ll be retirement age by the time he does.

Sounds like a great way for our 67 year old coach to then ride off into the sunset.

He’s done absolutely nothing during his three years at IU to warrant “credit.” Nothing positive, at least. I’ll give him credit when he retires for the good of the program because he recognizes that he’s not the right guy for the job.

#2 is the most likely option given the astronomically los expectations IU has for its basketball program these days (1 tournament win in 2 years gets you a million dollar raise as if we’re a mid major Cinderella story), and it’s the option that should piss everyone off. It’s unlikely Woodson misses the tournament given the roster his buddies bought for him, though if anyone could do it, it’d be Mike Woodson. And if he makes the tournament then they’ll stick with him because hey it’s IU, making the tournament is the new final four run.

No thanks. I’ve seen more than enough already.

We can’t get rid of this guy fast enough.

If you’re talking solely the product on the field/court then I probably agree (except bowl season). But college sports is way more than that to me. It’s the rivalries between schools. It’s the players developing throughout their careers. Watching players go from freshmen to seniors. It’s not two teams of mercenaries from USC and Rutgers playing an 11:00 pm Friday night Big 10 football game. But, it is what it is I guess.

It was inevitable, but I can’t imagine anyone believes this will make college sports better. Just look at how NIL + transfer portal have harmed them.

Mods mods please shut down all the threads I disagree with but spend all my time in

12 wins for IU will definitely be coming this July when I build the program into a dynasty on the new college football video game.

10 wins. FIU - W WIU - W UCLA - W Charlotte - W Maryland - W Northwestern - W Nebraska - L Washington - W MSU - W Michigan - L OSU - L Purdue - WWW Bowl Game - W

Same conference record as Chris Collins despite all the advantages IU has over northwestern in basketball. Mediocre Mike - doing less with more. He’d find a way to get blown out of the second round of the ncaa tournament with the New York Knicks.

Let’s keep it simple for you. Say Mike Woodson leads IU to a 7 seed and a loss in the second round. Should that result in him being fired?

Instead, you’ll be in here yelling at all the people saying Fire Woodson like you have been for the past 3+ months. Like I said, set the expectations low enough that even Mike Woodson can meet them. There’s no reason the expectations shouldn’t be higher than what the 2022/2023 team did.

The expectations the pumpers are putting out do not align with how they’re characterizing this off-season, I.e., that Woodson did so awesome and knocked it our of the park. The expectations should be a 1, 2, or, at worst, a 3 seed. They don’t want to set the expectations too high, though, because they know Woodson isn’t a good enough coach to meet high expectations. So, they temper them so they can then turn around and advocate for keeping Woodson next year because hey, he set the mediocre expectations we set.

Yeah, my IU basketball experience has been the post-Knight s***show. Lucky me. The Bob Knight comments are just stupid. First, he wasn’t dumb enough to attack his own fanbase. Second, he sure as hell wouldn’t say that he did his job after a season as disastrous as last season. Third, he won 4 conference titles in his first five seasons at IU. He lost 10 conference games total in his first five seasons. Mike Woodson lost 10 conference games last year alone. Bad personalities are much more tolerable when they’re exceptional at their jobs. Mediocre Mike hasn't won anything other than his four offseason championships.

Through their first three seasons Archie was at .561 and Woodson was at .612. Going into year four Woodson got his rich buddies to buy him a team. Archie didn’t have that luxury. Im not even arguing that Archie was a better coach, but let’s not pretend that they were coaching under the same circumstances. IU was at a big disadvantage pre-NIL/transfer portal because our administration wouldn’t let the coaching staff go into the gray area. Archie, and the coaches before him, were fighting an uphill battle in recruiting. Now IU is at a big advantage with NIL. Woodson only winning 61% of his games and 51.7% of his conference games with all the advantages he now has as the IU coach shows how bad of a coach he is.

He’s probably better than Archie, but he does have two big advantages that no other IU coach has had. What would Woodson look like without the transfer portal and NIL? He’s sitting at 31-29 in the Big 10 with it. Without it, he’d likely be a total disaster given his halfhearted recruiting efforts.

How would you describe him then? Look up Ricky Davis. His career numbers are very similar to Woodson’s. A little worse of a player, but certainly a better comparison than Scottie Pippen lmao. 14/2.3/2.3 on 52.2% TS for Woodson, 13.5/3.5/3.3 on 52.5% TS for Davis. 15.0 PER and -0.3 BPM for Woodson, 14.7 PER and -0.8 for Davis. .083 ws/48 for Woodson, .061 for Davis. Woodson played around 50 more games in his career than Davis. 11 seasons for Woodson, 12 for Davis. Does calling Ricky Davis a mediocre player offend anyone?