Hoosierfan2017

Basketball is what makes IU though.. We have a brand that is rivaled by very few in college sports. More people probably show up to watch the basketball team practice at Hoosier Hysteria than stay past halftime to watch the football team for some games. We're never going to be an Ohio State or an Alabama in football, but we can be their equivalent in basketball. I think it would be a mistake to put basketball on the back burner to embrace the '24 sports/1 team' motto.

For me personally I don't care how well he does with sports outside of basketball and football. Those are the only two sports that make IU a profit, and those are the sports that make or break the majority of D1 athletic programs. I get that his job is to look after all 24 sports, but if he keeps putting the product we've seen from the basketball team this year onto the court he won't be here very long, or at least he shouldn't be. I'm indifferent to him right now. I didn't like his handling of Wilson's situation, but it was something he probably had to do. If he screws up the basketball coaching situation though, he has to go, imo.

The sad thing is I think we'd get the same result from either tanking or playing as hard as we can.

Katz saying we've been "crushed" by injuries is a big exaggeration, imo. We had lost 4 of our last 6 before OG went down. I don't think we're 15-11 at this point if he never gets injured, but we sucked when we did have him. Not having Hartman all year obviously hurts, but I have a hard time including him as a part of the injury excuse. We beat both Kansas and North Carolina with Hartman in street clothes. IU isn't the only team that has dealt with injuries. Other coaches just find ways to adjust to them, and many of them don't have the talent on the court that we still have after injuries.

He feels trapped in a corner and now he's lashing out. The "he's a great guy" schtick is one of the few positive things he has going at this point. If he makes a jerk of himself he makes it even easier for people to want him gone. Let it out Coach, let it out.

Oh wow lmao, they actually are delusional then. I thought at this point the only people left on his side were the ones who need to stay in the program's good graces.

Wish he'd keep the criticism of the guys in the locker room. If he was going to do it he should've started 3 months ago when this team started collapsing. Doing it now makes him look bad and makes it seem like he's looking for anyone to blame except himself.

14 minutes for Davis is absurd. He was our best player by far, and he only sees the court for a third of the game.

It definitely seems like one of them is. I don't read much of their stuff but I always check out their Twitter during games like today for a few good laughs. I get not wanting to be too critical to keep access or whatever, but at this point I don't think anyone is buying what they're putting out.

I can't tell if @crimsonquary is trolling on Twitter or not. If not, then wow...

I can't even hear the crowd on tv. End of an era.

Nice closeup of a Crean pants adjustment!

Lol yeah I know. It would just be the only conceivable reason I can think of to keep Crean around another year. Otherwise we're wasting our time.

I really expected us to come out hot and have the sort of bounce back game that is common under Crean. I don't have high expectations for us in the first place, but this is truly pathetic.

It seems like every time one of our guys hits the deck he comes up hurt.

I guess I just see waiting another year as pointless based on what our team will likely look like next year. It will probably be even uglier than this year, and IU wouldn't be a more appealing job next year than it would be after this year. Crean's recruiting is bottoming out and I don't have any faith that he can turn it around. I feel like if next year is going to be a wasted year no matter what, we might as well do it under a new coach. The exception would be if a Stevens or Self type told us he doesn't want the job after this year, but he'll take it after next year.

Ugh, that's disappointing. It goes along with my theory about a lot of students nowadays though. IU hasn't been elite for a while, so if you didn't grow up a fan or around people who are fans you don't know that things are supposed to be better than this. I can see why they would be happy with the past few years. Have your daughter get all her friends on the fire Tom Crean bandwagon haha.

I hope so. If things get much worse with the program and he keeps Crean I think the boosters will turn on him. They won't care about what he's done for the other sports. Glass always talks about how important basketball is, so surely he knows the past 9 years aren't cutting it.

Are you talking an arena like Bankers Life? I love the history that Assembly has, but there are some terrible seats in it. There's not a bad seat inside Bankers Life.

If he extends Crean I'm fully on board with operation #FireFredGlass. Until then I'll hold off. He's done well with the other sports, but basketball is what matters here so he can't screw that up.

I won't really feel too bad for them if it's empty. They haven't put a product on the floor that people want to watch. Some of that blame goes to Crean, but he's not the sole reason people aren't showing up.

I don't know anything about his coaching abilities, but after watching the video Stuhoo posted it would be nice to have a coach with Martin's demeanor after 9 years of Crean.

He always seems to shoot well from outside but I still don't like him being out there. Only 3 rebounds tonight, we need him in the paint.

Idk if anyone mentioned it already but I think Crean set a PR on the blow by handshake after the game.