Golfman25

No he didn’t. He may have said it, but he built a team able to compete and did so. He just upped the anti this year. Probably pulls a Cig and wins the whole thing year 2.

I thought it was the fans? Now you’re saying it was the “IU Brass.” Who’s in charge.

Then include his whole tenure.

No it’s because of our fans, duh.

Ready to move on because there have been some glaring admissions made. Like not knowing the rough and tumble in the Big10. He gets points for admitting it, and hopefully changing his approach. But WTF, how does a multi million dollar coach miss that?

Of course the opposite of that is if he did here what he’s doing at Michigan, there would be streets and buildings named after him, keys to the city, statues, etc. : /

I guess spring break makes sense.

Don’t know why a kid who has decided to leave would wait to announce. Want to get your name in front of as many opportunities as possible. Now, if they haven’t had their meetings yet, Houston we have a problem. Would seem like we are playing from behind, again.

I can buy a lot of that. Now I don't know if it's good, bad or indifferent, but we are a week after selection Sunday (which was irrelevant anyway) and no transfer announcements. I have to assume the Coach/Player meetings have been held. Maybe we have something to build on?

That is actually the whole point behind NIL. It’s been bastardized by the “collectives” acting like a payroll.

Tom Crean's Mom enters the chat. : /

Yeah, I am no Tom Crean hater. I actually like the dude and he was the right guy at the time. When nobody would touch us he came to a dead program and resurrected it all because “It’s Indiana.”

The last line is the problem. He should have known who he was going to get. Or at least has a short list of pre screened candidates. Not our fault he sucked.

I am not sure it was all about the results with Crean though. I think a lot was projection of where the program was heading. It looked like he had worn out his welcome with in state recruiting, which at the time was still important. There was also some behind the scenes office stuff that made people uncomfortable as I recall. But regardless, whenever you fire a coach, you need to have an idea who the potential replacement may be. That has been our failure -- Fire first, then pick up the pieces and start looking for the next guy.

Yeah, Robbie Avila is athlete of the year. : ) Like the kid, but he plays in a system that works for him. Think he could handle the Big10? But nothing like missing the point -- but keep doing you.

As I have said in the past, it's a numbers game. First is make the tournament regularly. Once you get in, you have a chance to get to the Sweet 16. Start getting that far, and then a little luck takes over to go to 8 and 4. But the more you're in it, the more chances you have to advance. If you're only in it once in a while, then the most likely result is bounced in the first weekend.

Missing the point. It's not about replicating Cig's results. Cig has certain characteristics that all winning coaches have. You just have to model those characteristics on your hires. Obviously your not going to duplicate Cig and what it did an a record short time, but you can find coaches like him. Just off the top of my head, here's the Cig model: 1) Self Assurance (politically correct term for arrogance, cockiness, etc.) Cig checks this box. 2) Will to prepare to win -- Nobody is going to out work Cig. 3) Has a vision and can communicate it -- Fast, Physical, Relentless. 4) Has High expectations -- with everything around the program. From players to the freaking carpeting in the offices. 5) Process driven -- results are due to the process. It's multiplication, not addition. That's how you take some stars and win championships. Cig is a 5+ in all of the above. Bob Knight would get high scores in all of the above. Woodson was an epic failure in #2, weak in #5, talked a game in #4, but didn't produce. Archie, 3 and below at best in all of them. Now, where is CDDv? I'm not sure -- jury is still out.

The same reason every profession league has limits on money, player movement, and timelines. College is the wild wild west of free agency.

You guys might want ask Pam Whitten what her expectations where. Multiple years of .500 may not have done it. : )

Cig has certain characteristics common with all winning coaches. Figure out what those are and find a winner.

I don’t thunk it should take that long. You should know about a coach when you hire him. There is enough history out there to model the characteristics of a winner and hire to that model. Just copy Cig.

You can build culture overnight these days. CDDv isn’t an over the top personality. No rah, rah. No catch phrases. So it’s hard to gauge what he is all about. Thus, it’s difficult to know what his plans are. On the plus side, I suppose, we haven’t heard any portal transfers yet. So either evaluations are taking time, or we aren’t going to see a lot of turnover. So we could get consistency, which will help build that culture.

As it gets further away from actual student athletes, it will die a slow death. What makes college sports great isn't the talent (the best talent goes pro ASAP) as much as it is teamwork, tradition, and the fact they often hang with the other students. Hell, in the old days they were actually in your class. :{

Didn't answer the question. But I will. Cig would not have tolerated that for one second, situations be damned. That's why he's a winner.

You think Cig would have tolerated that. Dolson needed to man up and move the SOB out to the parking lot.