HoosierTrav

Go ahead and shut the thread down. This sums it up perfectly.

A combination of things. I think the university botched everything from the end of Knight’s tenure, his firing, the hiring of coaches and AD’s following his departure. I believe we have had and currently have an administration that does not want this program to garner the attention and power that it once did. I think we’ve mostly been 2nd rate program in the eyes of most coaches and elite players for the past few decades and I think we have the largest, disillusioned fan base in the entire nation. So yes. The fan base is contributing to our mediocrity, currently, in my opinion. You having a different opinion is fine by me.

I’m saying we have issues that go much deeper than the current coach. Our fanbase (myself included) create a near impossible situation for coaches to be successful in. We can fire the whole ******* staff and bring another one in. It won’t matter. Not until we fix what’s fundamentally wrong with this program.

Dead giant. Our program is just a shell of its former self and our large and out of touch fanbase is a major contributor (if not the main cause) to our mediocrity. The insane amount of pressure we apply to coaching staff’s, from our unrealistic expectations and impatience, make it nearly impossible for any coach to win. It goes way deeper than having the tradition, resources and fanbase. I’m convinced. We lead by fear. You better perform a miracle (in short order) or we’ll make you so damn uncomfortable, you won’t be able to wipe your rear end without second guessing how many squares to uses. We would be doing ourselves a huge favor by doing one of 2 things. 1. Completely disengage and place our focus elsewhere for a few years. 2. Lend the staff unwavering support for 2-4 years. Both of these will allow the staff to operate in a non toxic environment, so that they can actually have a chance at righting this ship. Otherwise, we are gonna need a coach like Brad Stevens or some other basketball God to come save us. And guess what? We aren’t gonna get one of these coaches. Why in the hell would they take this job when they can take their pick? Bottom line: We all need to adjust our expectations for this program. We haven’t been considered elite in 3 decades. There’s plenty of more attractive options for elite players and coaches that don’t require them to deal with us. Archie was almost unanimously regarded as the best up and coming young coach. If he can’t win at Indiana then not many guys can. Not without being cut a blank check for long period of time.

Dude.....it’s brutal. Each year it robs me of my passion for college basketball more and more.

If I didn’t have my kids and my business to focus on, I would be a wreck. I can’t imagine how badly I would be reacting to this mess 6 years ago.

Soccer

Worst offense I’ve ever seen. Worst collapse I’ve ever seen. Not good.

Confidence. It’s everything. When you know they are going in, they do.

There was also a story at Villanova with Jay Wright in which he scolded his staff and said he was only gonna recruit kids that they could actually coach up. Turned out ok for them. I have to remind myself quite a bit that I need to reserve my judgement of Archie for when he has a roster full of his players. I think we will see a quality product on the floor. Hell I’ve seen flashes where he’s ran better zone offense, out of bounds plays and calls out of timeouts that were exponentially better than anything we’d seen in the Crean era. The team has been absolutely decimated with injuries as well.

Brooks and the best shooting grad transfer

I’m beginning to believe that our decades long run of mediocrity and inability to sustain success, has little to do with who’s the coach.

Let’s hope. Unfortunately, I don’t share anyone’s optimism.

Michigan by a billion

Archie says he’s looking forward to playing Michigan in a good atmosphere. I’m not sure he understands just how nasty that crowd is going to be. Someone might want to warn him. Perhaps Joani Crean?

We are gonna lose 6 in a row at minimum. That’s awful.

If he could just drive down the lane and hammer it every single time, that’d be great.

Phinisee?!?!?! Got damn

He’s a jumper. Not good at anything else.

Justin Smith has missed 3 straight 1 footers. Killing us.

Good foul by Durham there, IMO... Justin Smith can’t even finish a clean dunk. Somebody want to tell his father?

Ok. You’re right. I’m wrong. Romeo is garbage. He should stay 3 more years. Totally overrated. The fact he’s not averaging 30 a game is an absolute indictment on his ability. So trash.

For Christ’s sake. Go google his game logs so far in the big ten so you can see a picture of how ridiculous you are being right now. Or would you just rather argue with me bc your too much of an ego maniac to stop doubling/tripling down on your bs claim? I’m pissed we are losing too bud.

Dude are you drunk? You set the narrative by saying it’s his fault. I countered with the FACT that he’s nearly averaged 20 points when other teams can key in on him.... you asserted that he hasn’t done this against the big boys. I provided more facts that went against your “narrative”. Then you started backpedaling and reaching for anything that would help your case. What a joke.

Care to move the goalposts any more?