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Having near equal resources to compete is basically a minimal standard. Then getting a coach with a Vision and a plan is the next step. What did Michigan just do for 2 seasons with Dusty May? What do you want to call that? He’s not the only one. Florida under Golden. The examples go on and on if you need them. Same idea.

Overpaying for a bunch of mercenaries is very year isn’t going to change much.

So are you saying you are 'team bad hire" and not "team coach destroyed by BTBers?"

Rivals with a story indicates we haven’t offered but maintaining close contact.

They damn sure did at least once. They hired a mediocre NBA coach who deemed himself worthy of the title "King of Indiana" while preferring to smoke cigars, drink wine and play golf over working the recruiting trail. And they continued to prop him up with tons of cash for the transfer portal and NIL payouts, despite the fact that he could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag. No one else would even look at him... but IU hired him, extended him and gave him unwarranted raises.

And another coach was hired simply because he played here before some of the recruits' parents were born. Some of the searches have been, let's say, questionable. This thread sure devolved into IU's struggles to find good coaching.

Announced today transferring to Prolific Prep.

That you think coaches are run out by fans is incomprehensible.

False. Cycle one the search committee interviewed no one and we hired Mike Davis.

Yeah, it's crazy how so many of those coaches went on to great success once they got away from the glowing swamp surrounding AH. Those, not fired for blowing up the program and given a 5 year show cause penalty, have went on to stack up 0 NCAA tournament wins. That's kind of an unfair stat by me though as 3 of those 4 haven't made a single tournament since leaving IU. I guess that IU toxiciy is like herpes, once you've got it, you've got it.

Yes and the administration pre-Dolson is the reason why. Nil is our chance to battle on an nearly even playing field. They gave Woodson top 10-20 money for roster. They are giving DeVries and actually trying to win. The admin didn’t care about winning for a long time. Sampson could have been a generational coach here under the right administration. So, really we are only on Coach 2 post NIL. Can’t really count the stuff before that especially if trying to blame fans again.

You think IU hires shitty coaches on purpose? The applicant pool gets worse every cycle. Who on Earth is going to stake their career coming here just to be run out by a bunch of dumb and delusional fans who still think it’s 1985?

The only one of those coaches that had anything remotely close to success was Tom Crean. The rest earned every bit of the fanbases ire. Heck a serious program wouldn’t have given most of them the job much less 4 years

You think the toxicity around this program started with Woodson? There's a reason why IU is on coach #7 this century.

How is a top 10 NIL budget, top ten and B1G leading attendance, and state of the art facilities toxic? Oh damn, I forgot about those 9405 mean,err 9404(AH1971 excluded) mean BTB members IU needs someone that doesn't listen to anyone but himself, thinks he is unquestionable program and state royalty, and calls any critic not a real fan. Now where can we find such a man with unfaltering hubris

Only Xavier Young made the final roster. In my earlier post I didn’t realize there was a final cut yet to be made.

FWIW, on a pod yesterday Matt Weaver said he thinks IU is great shape with Monshun. He said some other positive stuff. He acknowledged you never know with recruiting. But, that’s what he said. A July decision is the rumor. Personally, if it happens I’ll be thrilled and if not I’ll be mildly bummed.

Absolute top tier name!

I am not surprised. They have money to pay, and he's probably gotten more than initially offered. They will be good in the Big 12. I don't see them winning a natty (their coaching staff doesn't impress me as much as other staffs), but they will play in the CFP with no other competition in the Big 12 to prevent them from getting there. ETA: maybe we get him in the portal in a few years...

For anyone still following this one, word is he is staying with TTU.

I wish but my forced hiatus continues and now looks like through the weekend. Can’t catch a break. May see a flurry of activity tomorrow from me but then probably pretty quiet for a few more days.

The Man has returned

Like I said, I don't need anyone's opinion as to what constitutes a good coach. When your program reaches the level of toxicity that has become IU basketball, it doesn't matter.

If you think Woodson was a good coach, I don’t know what to tell you.