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#1 INDIANA FOOTBALL 2025 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Pagoda replied to Hovadipo's topic in Indiana Hoosiers Football
Nice. Miami is full of IU folks and I hear Fort Lauderdale is too. I know we just saw this happen in Pasadena and Atlanta, but I’ll never get tired of IU fans converging on a city for a big game. -
#1 INDIANA FOOTBALL 2025 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Pagoda replied to Hovadipo's topic in Indiana Hoosiers Football
Yeesh. T-Cal!!! You weren’t kidding. I know it’s just a prediction and he could be wrong, but I’ll take it! I’ve got his little intro jingle stuck in my head. CAN’T NOBODY STOP US CAUSE WE BUFFED IN PRIME. -
What gets us to top-10 roster spend do you think? $13-14M? I'm just guessing. I dunno... if CDD can't make the dance with $10M, I'm not sure he can anything too exciting with $13-14M. That's my concern.
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'07-08 was the launch of the B1G Network, which helped our media rights quite a bit, some of which IIRC was allocated to MBB. But I'm not going to look up whatever the amount was, if it’s even out there. We'll see what the big time donors do with MBB. I don't have a read on them except that they're going wild for football.
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Yea. I don't know exactly how we get to $10M roster spend -- something like $3.5M rev share and $6.5M NIL. The rev share is the AD's call, but that NIL could be at risk. CDD is going to have to work the donors and have a great speech at Hubers to explain what went wrong and why it will not repeat. Because if I am a donor, and he asks for $2M more, I'm gonna ask if that's for another Reed Bailey?
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We don't have the money -- there isn't $22-30M laying around to change out the staff. As for estimating revenue, I just look at historical revenue trends. Revenue doesn't move as much as one might think -- CBB doesn't make a lot of money and IUBB always sells a lot of tickets (even if they're unused). Look at our all-time low point of 08-09, it just didn't dip that much vs. years we were better like '07-08 or '11-12. And if you want a splashy hire, add $6M+ per year in HC comp vs. what we pay now. I'm not happy with the start of the CDD era, but a staff change right now isn't financially in the cards.
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The other angle is this is financially not possible right now. CDD's buyout is $18-19M after this season, add $1-2M for staff buyouts, and that's ~$20M to get rid of this staff. Then add $2-10M more to buyout whatever coach gets picked next, and we're talking $22-30M to flip the MBB staff. Mind you we just spent $12.7M for forcibly "retire" Woody ($6.5M) and pay WVU's buyout for CDD ($6.2M). IU is not paying $22-30M for a new bball staff right now. We don't have that money and it would be a huge waste vs. spending it on football. Or even MBB players. Or whatever else. If you look at the numbers, IUBB (and CBB in general) doesn't make a whole lot of money. Even if, and it's one heck of a giant IF, the next coach got IUBB going, that's only going to increase revenue ~$2-3M/yr. Maybe $4M at best. That's a crap return for spending $22-30M on a new staff, and there are no guarantees they'll be better. The IU athletic dept doesn't financially need IUBB to be good. IUFB is driving revenue increases, university exposure, and our influence in college sports. Our fans/donors have not been this fired up in 40 years. I agree CDD is off to a bad start. I'm disappointed and have serious doubts. But I can't see anything happening until year three, because that's how long coaches get and we can't afford to move right now anyways. So, the only options are to hope for the best or tune out. I guess another option is to post your displeasures on BTB.
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IUFB Recruiting and Transfer Portal Updates
Pagoda replied to Lebowski's topic in Indiana Football Recruiting Forum
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Yea, CDD’s buyout is 80% of his contract, which is $18-19M right now. It’s gonna be three years at least… Well, whenever the next hiring process happens, I would put Cig on the search committee and he interviews the candidates. He can weed out a bad coach in any sport and recognize the ones that have “it.”
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I don’t see a case to give CDD more money if this keeps up. If he can’t make the tourney with $10M, pretty unlikely he does much with $15M. Keep that money with football, they know what they’re doing. MBB can stay at $10M until CDD or some other bball coach proves they know what they’re doing. Just my opinion.
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I doubt keeping Malik would have helped much. S-O-F-T
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2026 Point Shaving / Fixing Allegations
Pagoda replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Off Topic Forum
Wow. What a mess. Also, it was a bit tense reading through the list of schools praying IU wasn’t on there. -
Mark Pope forever.
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(2026 Transfer) OL Wisconsin - Joe Brunner to Indiana
Pagoda replied to CSP's topic in Indiana Football Recruiting Forum
Not many OL like Joe in the portal. Had to go head to head with Texas. And we got him!!! -
IUFB Recruiting and Transfer Portal Updates
Pagoda replied to Lebowski's topic in Indiana Football Recruiting Forum
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IUFB Recruiting and Transfer Portal Updates
Pagoda replied to Lebowski's topic in Indiana Football Recruiting Forum
Weaver and Sammy pod on the portal so far. Good listen if you want to nerd out. Link to Hoosier Huddle Podcast on Portal
