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Next year we won't look like this. There's nothing you can do when you don't have power conference measurables anywhere. We have nothing to exploit at this level.

We had money. We didn't have anyone current to spend it. No connections, no relationships,,,, Who on that staff while the portal was open was a proven recruiter? So we need to upgrade the staff first, then the talent will improve because everyone on the roster gets the green light...

Wilkerson on Lindenberge

Will we have the financial support for basketball necessary to right this ship? Mark Cuban eluded to it indirectly when taking about his support of the football team. To paraphrase 'making a smart investment with my money.' Honestly, no one's favorite choice, to include my top two or three, are doing particularly well right now. I never thought I'd say this in my lifetime, "We'll probably never be the team our football team has been the last two years." Different sport but 27-2 and a natty??? Plus it generates more revenue. Is it possible that Cig put the final nail in our basketball team? If so, maybe we deserved it. Not as fans, but as a program. I think DD is a good coach, but great coach ,,,not really. But we haven't been worthy of much more for a long time. Our administration fell off the dumbfk truck and landed in a pile of Cignetti and is going to look great because of it, but the process around our flagship sport has been abysmal since Myles Brand. Now I'll go watch this guaranteed alliteration as my hope for a return to "the old days" peacefully crosses over the rainbow Bridge.

There are things we could do better. The game plan right now appears to be, get up a lot of shots, make more 3s than the other team does and play a scrappy brand of positional defense. Ultimately our problem is lack of a counter. We don't have the horses to do that. Tucker is a terrible athlete, Lamar can be contained and our pg struggles with control issues. I still think we can go .500 in conference. That probably doesn't get us in the dance, but missing the tourney could be advantageous. We need to get to the off-season as fast as possible.

This will be ugly. They'll clamp down on Wilkerson, DeVries will have to shoot from 35 feet to get a shot off and we have never been as outclast physically as much as we will be against them.

If this was "We never should've hired DeVries" thread, I'd be on board. My choices aren't exactly lighting it up though. He made his bed early and now we all get to lay in it. However I think he's a really solid x's and o's guy. He just blew it out his a55 with early staffing. A change or two with staffing and the talent necessary, I think we'll be OK. At the end of year 3 if we still can't get players then.....

I said this the second we signed him. This is where I normally go on my tangent about the first 2 months of DeVries tenure and not having a staff and people in roles they shouldn't be building a roster. Upgrade the staff a bit, someone with Euro connections is a must and buy the best back court available in the portal.

He's going to do the necessary things to ensure we can recruit at an elite level globally. That was his intention but he fumbled the ball a bit coming in the door. Next years roster will be bigger in the paint, more physical and our perimeter players longer and more athletic.

I think a couple of elite euro bigs and the best pg money can buy in the portal would put us back into tourney next year. We need to upgrade the staff a bit to accomplish that. I wonder what the financial commitment is moving forward for the basketball team. Football makes considerably more money.

I think with MSU's ability to defend the perimeter and rebound, also being on the road, it could be the worse loss we have this year.

What mightve been. Had Miokobu and Murphy walked through the door after Texas Tech and Alabama were eliminated this would've been a much different roster. A+ proven recruiters get you players. DeVries didn't build that team at WVU, his staff did. He fumbled the ball about as bad as you can the first two months on the job. We could've hired any coach in the nation and if they had Adams and Norton working in the players lounge trying to fill 13 roster spots, the roster would reflect it. Clark is solid. Kenny is probably washed up. Like I said, tweak the staff and flush this year when it's over. Get some players that belong on a competitive Big Ten team and see what DeVries can do with it. I'm just now watching this game. We just don't have a Big Ten roster. We knew we didn't.

Anyone overreacting, my guess is you didn't understand the importance of having a staff in place day one. You probably thought this roster was carefully crafted. The Murphy, Moikobi(sp) thing cost a year of what could've been a better roster. I wasn't a DeVries guy, but I think he's done really well considering the MVC caliber talent he has to work with.There isn't anyone in street clothes on that bench that can help us. He needs to tweak the staff a bit. I'm sure the portal wish list is being put together and back channeling has started. I squint and see 19 wins. That's good. We can get a jump on things. You have to come in the door hot, with at least one successful recruiter with you to flip a roster well.

Rod Clark is certainly the jewel of the group. Adams was never supposed to be a recruiting force on the first DeVries staff and that's evident with this year's roster, specifically Reed Bailey. The wild card is Kenny. Can he resurrect some of the magic from over a decade ago. He's certainly connected in the dmv. DD is a really nice modern offensive coach. Year 3 will be when we should expect return on investment.

I think if we can go 5-4 for the month of January and be at 15 and 7 we've maximized our talent. There's not much we can do to overcome the deficiencies we have. I think we'll have to win 2 of the three games in March and get one in the btt to make it in.

Enjoy the moment of where we're at right now, hard times are coming. I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas.

Yeah, the idea he was a shooter was based on an inflated 3pt% last year. He shot less than 2 a game and a couple of his games where 1 for 1, 2 for 3. Nothing about his career ever said Big Ten big to me. He is a good passer, and for his size he's a good ball handler. Atrocious career defensive numbers and the offensive rebounding numbers of a back-up point guard. Again,,,,the roster reflects our staffing during roster construction. The price tag on Bailey was reported to be 1.5m. 1.5 I think is the number of offensive rpg he gets. He was Adam's contribution. Next year will be different.

I'm for a line-up modification. I'd start by swapping bigs and inserting Dorn or Tren and splitting the pgs.

I'm glad this is at home. I love PSUs frosh pg and they have plenty of size.

I don't expect us to shoot 40+% as a team from three all year. I was disappointed with the free throw shooting. Coach DeVries has plenty of rope, this year we'll surprise a few teams at home. .500 in conference will be something to be proud of with this group. Year two make the tournament and year three it needs to be the DeVries vision and we need to be sweet 16ish. That's reasonable. We will get pummeled by a few teams this year.

Keep your eyes on all of the juniors and under that play C and PG. They'll probably hit the portal.

I enjoy watching this team. I think it's the type of style that will be enticing to talented 3 and d players as we move forward. Someone with Ke'el Ware's skill set would make the ideal 5 for us. I think we can find that on the oversees market. I don't think right now is the ideal roster for DD. There are glimpses of it. I look forward to the middle of the pack games we play. There are great stylistic match-ups there. I think we're a .500 team in conference. Louisville is the worst possible match-up for us because they're the same team except in year 2, deeper and more talented. I think we'll get stomped. Kentucky on the road will be tough too. 19-12 going into the conference tournament. There will worse teams than us make the tournament. I'm not sure we can.

I believe we will get one 5☆ or player in the top 25. I'm not sure who. A big or pg would be great.

2027 in state is loaded and a lot of wing talent in 2028.

Year 3 will be when I will have expectations. Anything over .500 is found money. I trust DD to identify program pieces this cycle that along with Trent will establish a culture we will be happy with. Taylor is a multi-year big, we should return everyone with eligibility. Hopefully there's a robust pg market in the portal.