Juwan Moye

Meanwhile, let’s check in on how Dusty May is doing over at Michigan.

Although if we wanted to truly swing for the fences then I’d go and try to make Nate Oats an offer he can’t refuse.

Dusty May already surpassed Howard’s win total from last season and he’s in year 1. Turnarounds can happen immediately in todays game with the right coach. And we could very likely still get May at the end of this year.

If our program were run by adults we’d have a headline about Woodson like this: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43168609/sources-jim-larranaga-talks-miami-stepping-down

“Ponzi scheme? I never heard of it but I’ve coached ball long enough that I’m sure I could figure I out.” - Mike Woodson, probably

Everyone should be terrified of that Penn State game.

Just fire Woodson at halftime and end this garbage. At least we’d put an assistant in the interim position that we could cheer for.

Best half of basketball they’ve played all year, loved the intensity.

I will always find it funny that Woodson told us the team was shooting 27-28 threes a game over the summer. It can really only mean one of three things, none being good: 1: he was lying 2: our 3pt defense is so bad that we get up more threes against ourselves than against even mediocre teams 3: he was combining the 3pt attempts of the two teams in the scrimmage to come up with the number Not sure what other explanation you there could be. All 3 make me laugh in their own way.

The only “ball” those people know starts with “deez”.

Woodson should be fired before December. Won’t happen but at this point I think I’m just gonna check in on this team from time to time to see if it’s worth spending any time watching. Complete embarrassment.

Our coach is a joke.

Barstool article: https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3532542/i-hate-to-start-the-holiday-season-with-negativity-but-its-time-for-indiana-to-fire-mike-woodson

So… we allowed to criticize our coach outside of the firing him thread? Embarrassing performance, so glad I didn’t take my wife up on her offer to actually go to this game.

Money buys talent nowadays, doesn’t matter when your coach is terrible.

You mean we can’t defend the three, make a three, or rebound? Haven’t heard it before!

Outside of Indiana homers, is there any “top college basketball coaches” list that even has Woodson in the top-50?

Zach Edey has made more threes this season than any player on our roster not named Mgbako.

11-34 from three after two games against cupcakes. Season will be determined by defensive rebounding, our ability to defend the perimeter, and our ability to knock down threes. We look like a tourney team based on pure talent but this doesn’t look like any sort of threat to win the B1G or to sniff the final four.

Improved talent doesn’t fix poor coaching. Same damn issues every year.

That’s in line with what I felt as well. Talent upgrade with Rice and Ballo but same schematic issues, and lack of shooting, that we were all worried about heading into the year. obviously still early but nothing about today alleviated any of those concerns.

Tuning out on an exhibition, I must be awful. Keep your bad opinions to yourself. Schematically, for the first 30 minutes of the game, this looked the same as last year. The positives were things like Ballos defensive rebounding, and Rice when he got downhill. That’s not coaching though, that’s talent. Maybe the last 10 minutes look better but we’ll see when the games matter. I’m real worried about the perimeter d and lack of shooting, nothing from today suggested any meaningful differences in either of those areas. We were just fortunate Tennessee shoots wide open threes as poorly as we do.

I understand this was an exhibition, and Tennessee should be a good team, but nothing that I’ve seen suggests our coaching staff has actually adjusted much from last year. Perimeter D and shooting still look poor, buddy ball looks to be our norm. Hope I’m wrong but I went ahead and turned that game off. Felt it making me even more pessimistic about how our coach will put these pieces together.

If you’ve seen The Wire, this thread serves as this message boards Hamsterdam. Keeps all of us delinquents in one place.

The problem is we have top 5 money to throw at players, and are at least a top 10 program regarding resources. Given that we agree that “mercenaries” is the new norm, we should be able to expect at least top 10-15 results from this team. So expecting a top 4 seed in the tournament should be a reasonable expectation. But “purgatory” as some others point out is us in as a 7-10 seed, maybe winning a game, and then people defending Woodson because of garbage reasons. I’m not sure if there’s a coach in the country who has been paid as much as he has during his tenure, with the budget he has to buy his players, that has performed this badly. I at least can’t think of one.