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Not much time left but man today was a good day (h/t to Ice Cube).

Hopefully he makes the right decision and does not have to worry about it.

It wasn't a foul.

He is a ******. His boy Archie sucked here and he has been antagonizing IU fans ever since he was fired. He has no objectivity when it comes to Indiana. Zero.

And in a perfect world I agree with Boeheim. That world is gone though. Glad to see that the people in charge at Indiana are finally getting out in front of something. This is coming, for better or worse, so it is best to prepare for the inevitable. Late adopters could find themselves in a hole.

https://orangefizz.net/2021/04/indiana-is-promoting-building-player-brands-is-that-the-future-of-recruiting/ A little shade thrown in the article from Syracuse (not that they have been all that impressive lately....) but Indiana is looking to be a trailblazer with how the NIL stuff is going and someone took notice. https://mobile.twitter.com/IndianaMBB/status/1378154321506934790

Closer to home for Fife but his wife is an Indiana (Kokomo) and IU girl....and I think the idea that the MSU job is his when Izzo retires is false. I mean, first met in line at Nick's and named their daughter after Quinn Buckner type of connection to IU.

Didn't Race meet with Minnesota yesterday too? Thought I saw that somewhere.

You are assuming they won't be able to improve and fight for a spot.

Yeah, there have been a whole bunch of comments today that kind of give an insight into what happened the last rl4 years...

A kid coming in that thinks he does not have anything to work on is a kid that is going to be uncoachable. Everyone has stuff they need to work on, including the pros. If a kid doesn't want to hear that, then I think he is the type that will not be successful in college anyway, so we should pass.

Yes.

I kind of want them to count against the limit. Get off to a good start and see what we can add with the 2022 class.

No surprise there really.

Yeah, I just see some of the arguments we saw being in play here too. "Why would a coach who is comfortable and winning uproot to go to UNC?" I checked one of their boards and their were a few "Call Stevens" who were mostly shot down. There were a bunch of "It is probably Wes Miller" and then it got to names we threw around: "Call Few, Call Oats, etc." I think they face rmthe same uphill battle we did with those guys. I think they get Miller. And nothing against him, I am rooting for some of these other schools like Duke and UNC to share in the struggles we have had since Knight left. I want the media to twist themselves into a pretzel about how their fanbases are right to have expectations. The hypocrisy would be "muwhah" (kisses fingers)

Do they? I think we are about to find out.

That ship sailed and sank. We have a coach who wants to be here.

No. He didn't want to be here, f him. If he picks going over there over Indiana, then double f him.

The ship has obviously sailed, but man, if that is true then you have to wonder about the work environment in Boston. If I wanted out and my employer would not let me, I would be pretty disgruntled. Particularly with what he is facing from those fans (like getting doxxed).

https://mobile.twitter.com/khristianlander/status/1377409717589340160 Lander liked the announcement.

Honestly, I have been a "negative" poster on our past few hires. I get it, Woodson has some questions. In my opinion, everyone does (including the Masshole). I think sometimes the problem ends up being when we go into something with a preconceived notion (this was a bad hire) and then we look for info to support that. Not directed at you, but I think some people are getting stuck in negative confirmation bias. There is some positive confirmation bias as well. The reality is that we don't know how Woodson is going to do. There are reasons you can point to as to why he could do well and why he may not. The thing is, the guy has not even had his job for a week. Has not coached a game. The first real move I have seen so far is keeping Hunter on staff. I don't think anyone believes that there are not some risks involved here. There are. What I think rankles people somewhat is that some people tend to start negative and never leave that position. "His offense will suck..." "Well here is what he did..." "That was in 2013, what about now where the game has changed?" "Well, he appeared to be ahead of that curve." "Yeah, almost 10 years ago..." No offense to that poster, but that is just shooting down actual facts with what ifs because you are not a fan of the hire. We just married our wife. You may think she sucks and you may be right at some point down the line. Just read the room, saying she sucks when we are in Hawaii celebrating a new marriage maybe is not the best time.

Outside of a very select few coaches who were not going to come here, those same questions would exist for any hire (other than maybe the age). Musselman and Oats are newer and have one decent run in the tournament each. Drew would have recruiting questions at Indiana because the AAU coaches here are not a fan. "But he could get national guys here...he recruits Baylor." Maybe. We don't know that. I think this fanbase (me included) gets too wrapped up in the next shiny object. We panned Greg Gard. We panned Holtmann. We panned Howard. We panned Painter. We said that Underwood was a bad hire. All those guys have been kicking our butts with our "proven Final Four and Elite 8" coaches. There will always be questions, I hope that we can sit back and let this guy actually do some of the job before we bury him under pessimism before he has even coached his first game. Let the guy have a ******* honeymoon.

Really good move IMO.

They are legitimate, they are a really good program BUT, they are a really good program in a really crappy conference who has done nothing to change that at fact. Take Butler for instance, they had success and moved to get out of the Horizon to raise the level of their competition and hopefully make a few extra bucks. Gonzaga's biggest competitor in conference has been what? St. Mary's? They play the type of teams 20+ games a year that would be considered cupcakes. "But they play a hard non-conference schedule Crazy." Yeah, because they have to. And that non conference schedule is not a guarantee that you are catching one of those P5 schools in an up year. They are guaranteed about 16 wins a year from their conference schedule. They usually have a few more cupcakes sprinkled in along with some truly tough opponents. They are a really good program but they have record inflation based on their conference schedule. Put Duke, UNC, Kansas, or Kentucky against that schedule and they dominate as well. Then they get the luxury of better seeding in the tournament based off of playing mostly dreck after Christmas. That helps with the tournament record as well. I would respect them more if they went the Butler route to get in a conference worth a damn.