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"It's Indiana. It's Indiana, and that is the bottom line." That applies to football as much as basketball. Maybe more. I think that starts to change but I certainly can't blame anyone for having doubts.

Not sure how you can lie? Pretty easily. "The collective will pay you this much" followed by the collective paying much less. Where the NCAA screwed up is holding on to the amateur, athletes are not employees arguments too long and hard then losing in court because they were trying to restrict the rights of students who were just amateur non-employees by their own argument. Completely incompetent, yes, but not for the reasons you state. The NCAA tried to ban talk of NIL. They lost in court. The NCAA doesn't have the power to ban collectives and if they tried, they'd lose in court. The only way this really gets sorted out is through a collective bargaining agreement.

He lost out on millions of dollars because he was lied to. I can't blame him for jumping on the ~50% raise he was promised over what he would've gotten at Miami. I hope he wins his lawsuit. Lying to players about how much money they'll get from NIL is pretty common.

That would be quite the extraordinary leap from around 100 (95 on 247, 108 composite) the summer before his senior season to a 5*. I just don't see that happening, so I would be surprised if it happens. There's lot of room to move up in the ranking without becoming a 5*.

Considering those 10 games were at the end of the season, I doubt he'd be granted a waiver.

Yeah, the decommitment isn't a great look but I can totally understand why he did it. He was promised almost 50% more than than Miami. If I had a job offer that I had accepted but hadn't started yet then another company that seemed just as good came along and offered me 50% more, you better believe I'd jump on that. So I can't really blame him. The article also said that he didn't get much NIL at ASU to the lies really cost him a lot of money. What is really needed is some sort of collective bargaining agreement that would make commitments on both sides binding. Until that happens, it'll be the wild west and the NCAA is powerless and the best way to avoid these types of situations is lawsuits like this acting as deterrents.

Gross on whose part? The adults who reneged on their contract? The player for suing to hold them to what he was promised in the contract? I hope he wins and similar lawsuits are filed against people at other schools who make promises of big money then renege. It sounds like that is actually pretty common.

Long live this thread! (I actually hope it only goes until the end of next season)

You'd be okay with a 5-7 seed? You said that this roster dwarfs that of the team which got a 4 seed. Seems like a 4 seed should be the floor of acceptable seeding and he should be shown the door if they can't get at least that.

I didn't like this argument then and I don't like it now. You can't make something that doesn't exist. There wasn't even a selection for that non-existent tournament. From what I remember, they were very much a bubble team entering the B1GT. They won a couple of games which people thought were enough to get them into the tournament but it wasn't a sure thing since teams like that get left out quite often. You can say he would likely have made it but the fact remains that he made exactly 0 NCAA tournaments while at IU.

I hadn't seen that Creighton was no longer going to be a part of that. They are buying out of the contract to go to a tournament that pays to NIL collectives, instead. https://whiteandbluereview.com/creighton-pulls-out-of-battle-4-atlantis-will-instead-compete-in-players-era-festival/

Part of Miller's problem was that he wasn't very good at evaluating talent. Even a bunch of players he didn't land but recruited hard turned out to be not very good. Ethan Morton and Matt Cross are a couple of examples. So having NIL money likely would've just meant that he landed more players who weren't very good, except they were getting paid for it. Sure, it may have helped him land a few more players who were actually good, but it probably wouldn't have mattered too much in the greater scheme because Miller is simply a bad coach. Also, I find it hilarious that people are now defending Miller as if saying that Woodson is better than him is saying Woodson is a good coach. They're both bad but Miller is clearly worse.

Be careful you don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back so hard. ;p

That's a huge pickup. 2 A finals at the NCAAs and with a bit of improvement in the 3rd event could score in that. Also helps the medley relays in either back or fly. Plus, she has 3 years of eligibility left. Huge.

Still a "yay" if he underperforms with that team but does well enough to keep his job to keep underperforming? That's more likely than him improving as a coach.

Yes, Miller was bad at almost all aspects of the job. Woodson is definitely better than the very low bar Miller sets.

I guess it's good he committed after the portal was closed. Otherwise there would probably be a bunch of players entering or re-entering the portal to get a better deal if that guy can get $2M. I haven't seen him play but he's the MWC POY so he's good but $2M good? Probably not.

Woodson on the same level as Miller? I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I don't think Woodson is a very good coach but I do think he's better than Miller.

There's the "we kept other bad coaches too long so we should keep this bad coach too long as well" argument again. It's not the great point that you think it is.

Mike Woodson also had a 48 point game as a coach.

It's actually that the NCAA held on too hard to the "amateur" model and chose to fight everything instead of trying to adjust that did this. They decided to go to court over and over and started to lose. They argued that the athletes were just students who just happened to play sports. The courts decided that if that was the case, then the NCAA couldn't restrict the rights that every other student has, such as making money and transferring as much as they want. The NCAA got themselves neutered. That doesn't change that Woodson isn't a very good college coach and should be replaced, hopefully after next season since the team will likely play as less than the sum of its parts just like every team under Woodson so far.

https://www.wyomingnews.com/is-jeff-linder-still-the-guy-for-the-university-of-wyoming/article_10b29d64-c450-11ed-a977-fb55dfddacf3.html That article from a year ago touches on #2 but it sounds like speculation on social media due to 3 players transferring midseason and 3 more right after the season ended. Not surprising with a bad team, which that was. Unless things have changed since then, it doesn't sound like the fans will miss him.

That's what happens when you have no HS recruits and have to build a roster from the transfer portal.

I'll preface this by saying that while getting an OV is great, I don't think he'll end up at IU. However, just imagine if he did commit to IU. The boost that would immediately give to IU in recruiting (HS and portal) would be huge.

The throw probably would've been more accurate if they had put someone behind him to elbow in the face before the throw.