Unexpectedflash

The thing is if you want to win a title which I think we all do you need to be good at offense and defense. Even though Virginia plays at snails pace the year they won a title they had a top 10 offense. Jay wrights Villanova teams were the similar although slightly faster. They played slow but made a lot of threes and were extremely efficient. Archie was very one sided at Dayton and that works at the mid majors but we need both. I watch a lot of nba so I will say the fast paced spread it out offense is what I’m used to but I just want to see wins honestly.

I love Nate oats and would be shocked if he came here. Saying that the coach I think that has the best shot at creating a nate oats like system is Schertz. He already plays 5 out a lot and they’re at 44 in pace. I really do think he’s going to be a star. Maybe it’s the new shiny toy and that’s why I like him more than May but I’d honestly be very happy if we ended up with schertz as our coach.

New coach gets my cycle of hope started once again. Another year of Woodson is going to cause a real loss of interest for a lot of people. Hated those last Archie and crean years since i ended up rooting for losses to get a new coach

If woody had fland, mcneely, and queen committed I think more people would give him a pass for this year. As it stands we have very little momentum and i wouldn’t be shocked if we have to replace the entire starting 5 of an already bad team. 66 year old Mike Woodson is not the person i trust to go get 5 people out of the transfer portal that are good enough to make a difference. That’s not a recipe for success.

We’re already broken but i don’t think it has to do with firings and more with picking bad coaches. Find a good coach and they’ll be treated like a god

I mean crean went to georgia right after and was terrible even with Anthony edwards there. Mike white has Georgia in a much better spot after two years than crean ever did. I appreciate some of the fun teams Crean had but just because we suck now doesn't mean Crean should still be coach.

I wish this were the case but they actually have guards this year. Braden smith is very good and lance jones was a big pickup. I think they have 7 players or something shooting 35% or higher from 3. I do think an athletic team can give them problems but they've beaten everyone this year. I think this is probably their best chance to win one.

Kentucky fans calling for Cal to get fired. Hope we don’t miss out on someone we want waiting a year with all the good jobs that look to be open this offseason.

Schertz has proven he can coach championship level offense. You need a top 25 kenpom offense and defense to win a title. He’s at 11 on offense and 82 or something last time i checked. For me Schertz>May. I think with better athletes the defense is improved. Robbie Avila is awesome but idk how much rim protection he’s providing and swopes is undersized. I’ve also seen him play his starters the entire second half in multiple games when they had to pull out a win. He’s turned around two programs now. Kids are going to love playing in his offense. I would be perfectly happy with Schertz as our coach since i doubt we get one of the big names. Also he can use the transfer portal. Three out of the five starters were transfers and have been much better since joining ISU. Only took him two years to rebuild. With our resources I’d expect him to be great.

If we were KU or UNC we would’ve denied everything and probably would’ve had a national title with Sampson as coach

If I’m 66 year old Mike Woodson at the end of the year do I really want to try and rebuild this team after a horrible year and try and recruit 8 new players or whatever. I personally wouldn’t. I think everyone would be happiest if he decided to retire. I’m sure being booed by the college he loves like last game couldn’t have been enjoyable and it’ll only be worse this year. Retire, be a program ambassador and go to all the games, and enjoy your life Mike.

I’ve watched a decent amount of FAU. I worry they have johnell Davis who is just flat out way better than anyone on the court and has won them games this year. I honestly don’t really care about postseason success. Single elimination tourneys can be flukey and if dusty lost that one point game to Memphis in the second round last year are we even having this convo. Danny Hurley never even made it past the round of 32 before he got to uconn. But like the last 3 hires I’ll be optimistic and hope it works out but I don’t think dusty is the slam dunk we need him to be.

That crean thread was legendary. Up there with our last coaching search thread. Lmao I can't believe we're doing this again.

I mean I said I don't think we get them but money. Arizona is broke right now. They just lost their football coach since they wouldn't pay him. The only way you get one of these coaches from another power school is making them a top 3 coach in the country. Thats how georgetown got Ed cooley from Providence just this past offseason. I have zero faith in us to do that and I assume Dusty ends up our coach but it's what I would try and do.

They’ve come out hot. Someones gonna get a good one in Scherz

I remember it was rumored that Archie didn’t have the personality for this job and that was one of the reasons he failed outside the bad coaching. Idk is that a worry for May at all. He doesn’t show much emotion on the sideline which is all I’m basing it off of

Beards a great coach. I doubt we even call him. I’d offer a boatload of money to Drew and Lloyd and hope one says yes. With our luck they both probs say no. I actually do really like scherz and have found myself watching all of their games since ours are so painful. I like may also but I’ve seen their team come out flat a lot this year. Musselman I think would be good here but he’s had a very bad year this year so idk.

The thing is i feel like we’ve used Ware horribly. He’s a good shooter. He shouldn’t be parked in the paint. Use him like the pacers use Myles turner

Gross

I doubt he'll be our coach but I love Josh Schertz's system. Reminds me kind of nate oats system at least on offense. Lead the nation in three pt percentage and they play very fast with a lot of freedom. I'd be surprised if he's not successful wherever he goes since kids are going to want to play in that. I find myself comparing him and Dusty May. I think I like Schertz's offense more since they generally play faster and I see more movement out of them. Obviously doesn't have the postseason success of dusty and I have no idea about his personality. Just some random thoughts but if anyone gets a chance to watch ISU play it's a treat and basically a different sport when comparing to our offense.

Lol it's not my money. I'd give him 20 million of someone else's if it were up to me.

Unlikely but maybe Tommy Lloyd? Granted Arizona is a basketball school but the athletic department is broke right now. They just lost their football coach since they wouldn't match his contract. Offer him like 5.5 million and he's getting a big raise. He's shown he can win big at this level. Obviously needs some more post season success but I think that is more random than consistent regular season success. Plus it would make Jeff Goodman furious which is always fun.

It's honestly so weird to me that Woody doesn't seem to care about the 3 ball really much. He's an NBA guy. One of the reasons his Knicks teams were so good was because of the amount of threes they took and made. His opening press conference he talked a big game about the four out one in offense and the importance of the three ball but we have honestly not seen much of that since he has been here. Maybe it's the big ten style of play or whatever but you put yourself at such a disadvantage not taking 3s. We unfortunately don't have Trayce to mask a bad offensive scheme anymore. I was hopeful getting a stretch big like Ke'lel meant a more open three point centric offense but it looks the same as last year with worse players. I saw somewhere we were in the 300s in pace which does not fit this team much either.

I like ellis but that'd be a really bad shooting lineup so I think i'd prefer Knecht

This is obviously premature but I will say one of the reasons I like Dusty more than say Porter is his system. They play modern basketball and he's shown at least this year that he can coach an offense and defense good enough to win a title. Porter was so one sided and I didn't have much faith a defense only coach would translate to higher level competition. If Dusty manages to keep everyone next year, they could be even better. They only have one senior on the roster.