Hoosierfan2017

$538k in 2021. Not bad for a guy whose top 2 programs either (a) won zero conference games or (b) got steamrolled in the round of 64 that year.

Solutions have to actually make sense to be solutions. This is just “hey we can still be friends” after a breakup. It’s awkward for everybody. What’s the sell to the next coach? Hey by the way, the crappy coach we just fired is going to be your advisor, he’s got a direct line to you whenever he wants. Plus, Woody doesn’t really put effort into doing the job he already has. Seems unlikely he’ll take a $6 million haircut in exchange for another job/role. Just use some of that “most profitable athletic program” money and fire him.

Why would we want Woodson in an advisor role? Not sure I’d want him advising on 2024 basketball given what he’s shown over the past 3 years.

Lmao. Those darn out of state students and their *checks notes* IU fandom.

I disagree completely. Does anyone disagree with the take that Pitino and Calipari were bad nba coaches? They probably wouldn’t disagree with it themselves. But they were lifelong college guys who tried the nba. Woodson is the reverse of that. Assuming arguendo that winning 46% of his games doesn’t make Woodson a bad nba coach, the fact no nba team offered him a head coaching job after 2014 is pretty strong evidence of what nba teams thought of him. Especially with the way the nba recycles coaches. If you’re hiring a 63 year old with no college experience to be your head coach, you probably want to find a guy who was successful at the level he coached at. That wasn’t Mike Woodson, and his IU results speak to that.

I simply don’t believe that anyone who doesn’t have a vested interest in Woodson sticking around believes he’s the right guy. He’s failing at every facet of the job.

Cupps, Banks, Walker, Sparks , Gunn (you’ll argue he was an Archie guy, but Woodson chose to keep his commitment). That’s 5 of our 12 scholarship guys. None of them have been any good. He brought in MM who has been a big disappointment for a top ten 5 star player. There’s half your roster. He’s been able to land several 5 star recruits that top programs also wanted. That doesn’t make his “eye for talent” just fine. Kudos to him for landing those players, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to identify those guys as good players. We’ve seen his “eye for talent” in how he’s built the complimentary pieces.

You act like we’re blind and deaf. The results speak for themselves. Coaching and playing are two completely different skill sets. Great players often make horrible coaches. And you’re right. Mike Woodson coached at the highest level. He stunk at it. Won 46% of his games in the nba. He was fired in 2014 and didn’t sniff another head coaching job until IU came around. He was out of coaching entirely in 2018/2019 and 2019/2020. You’re flailing in an argument when you resort to the “you think you know more than our coach?!” take.

We’re not a “very young” team. That’s just an excuse being peddled by Mike Woodson. Xavier is a 6th year senior. Trey is a senior. Reneau and Ware are sophomores and, easily, our best players. They were top 40 in their classes. One freshman in our starting lineup, and he was the #10 player in his class. He brought in a junior Payton Sparks and a 5th year senior Anthony Walker to be rotational players. They’re not any good, but that goes to Woodson’s failures in the transfer portal.

You gotta be on the Mike Woodson payroll at this point to still be taking this stance after a second 20 point drubbing by Purdue … I don’t care to wait around to see if our 66 year old coach suddenly changes his approach. I’ll be his age and he’ll still be talking about getting over the hump

Ok well Woodson’s team sucks because he won’t do those things then, so he needs to go.

I wanted Woodson fired on day 0. It was a joke of a hire by a joke of an administration. If IU brings him back for a fourth season? That’s as clear of a sign that they give zero craps about winning that you’ll ever get. Act accordingly.

It sadly shows how far the program has fallen. Woodson’s high points are getting blown out in the first round and then getting blown out in the second round the following year. We’re so far removed from being an elite program that just making the tournament in back to back years is seen as an accomplishment. Losing in the first round or second round should be a down year for IU. Not results that keep your job safe.

His supporters don’t even even to make basketball-related arguments for keeping him beyond this season anymore. It’s just ‘it’s too soon’ and ‘we’ll look impatient if we fire him.’

Kentucky would’ve fired Archie when he lost 12 games during a 13 game span in conference play. But we’re IU, we’re better than that, so we kept him another two years. And since we kept him four years we have to keep Woodson at least four years too. Probably should do 5 years just to be safe.

How in the world did he see this team and think we didn’t need to use the last scholarship? Xavier is erratic and often injured. Trey would be a solid role player on a good team but isn’t a guy who should be playing 33 mpg. And that’s the backcourt Woody decided to roll with.

IU hired a guy who had no business getting the job but the administration (and a portion of the fanbase) will gaslight us into thinking we’re the problem. Mike Woodson 100% needs to go. Embarrassments like tonight do so much more damage to the program than firing a crappy coach “too soon” ever could do.

Lmao they’re clowning us so bad that Zach Edey is launching threes. Should make them take public transit back to Bloomington.

Sorry, but we can’t fire him. The public perception of firing him when we gave Archie four seasons would be so much worse than the public perception from two 20+ point beat downs courtesy of our biggest rival.

We beat them by 5 points and by 8 points last year. They’re currently beating us by 26 points… after beating us by 21 points last month.

You could probably find better guards on court 1 at the HPER.

Fire him after the game.

Would be fine with me, honestly. I’ve been much more into CFB than CBB in recent years. Would be awesome to have IU be a legitimate program.

He’s said before that he doesn’t mind being at a football school, but I do wonder if long-term he’d rather be someone that basketball is #1. Playing second fiddle to the football team could get old. But maybe not. Bama is willing to spend.

Would love to get Nate Oats. Had forgotten about him. Great coach.