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NIL, salary, even pre-NIL ISU punched above its weight but IU recruited a station above it. B12 isn’t on the B1G or SEC level as far as $ goes due to football tv contracts.

I think you can’t go wrong but I’d pick Otz. If you wanted to argue that Drew has recruited at a higher level, built a program out of smoldering wreckage where no one else did, and won a title, well, yeah, good argument.

Suggesting he may want to win a title and hang ‘em up, or do something less demanding like TV or front office work again?

Not sure what you’re saying

This is one interpretation of what we know. Maybe the right one! Another extreme is to take the word of some of the folks with the longest track record on this board of knowing things that aren’t yet public, in which case it’s relatively simple to imagine there’s ongoing negotiations or even a verbal agreement (a written one would be subject to FOIA and even if you wanted to let the season play out without news you might not be able to control it).

I’m familiar but if it was a contract negotiation ploy to lean on the Celtics, you wouldn’t care about NIL assurances

Nature abhors a vacuum, and so does a coaching search.

Well 2 weeks ago Thursday there was some chatter from Trilly that Brad had a couple weeks to get back to IU. Obviously lots has happened since then but tomorrow, I believe, is the two weeks “deadline.” Now of course if he wants more time you make it work. But I wonder if tomorrow there could be some heat or some docusigning.

McCollum and/or DeVries fans will likely get one or the other at Iowa, BTW

He’s posted but hasn’t changed his tune, right?

By the way, if we end up with TJ Otzelberger — and increasingly I wonder if he’s the odds-on favorite — we are going to have a GREAT coach.

Good question — genuinely don’t think there’s a good reason, especially now that football’s good. Like the real reason is that IU… 1. Should’ve handled the Knight departure differently, then 2. Was genuinely put in a bad place by a good thing (‘02 runner-up finish) and did what they probably had to do; stuck with Davis. 3. Then the President overruled the AD to hire Sampson, a great coach who should’ve known better. 4. The Sampson mess meant IU did probably as well as they could to get Crean, and he ran his course for reasons both outside and inside his control. 5. Archie was a defensible pick in a bad cycle but turned out about as bad as we could’ve imagined. 6. And of course Woodson hasn’t worked out, though the extent to which that’s the case is somewhat overstated. But if IU handles #1 better, or doesn’t get to the ‘02 final, or picks Beilein instead of Sampson, or Hulls isn’t hurt and can thus shoot in the ‘13 S16 and Crean proceeds differently thereafter, or any number of other things go differently, the last 25 years are better, more consistent, and nobody calls it a “fishbowl”

Fine enough candidates in a vacuum, to me; Murray and Kimani Young are both interesting at UConn. None of those guys meet the Thamel criteria of HM HC experience

This comes up a bunch but I don’t know the context. Who can share?

Not if it was in 2011, the new arena is like a year old

Was thinking the same

Stevens, if he returns to coaching, is immediately a top five or ten working coach in the English-speaking world. He’s been excellent in a front office role but in college that’s a much simpler job than in the NBA. If you can here BS and he’s willing to coach, he’s the coach. It seems strange to me that he’d want to be a GM or similar at the college level.

Really happy for CMW and the seniors. Please ignore anyone who compares Woody to Archie. That said, in both cases I think rivalry performance is revealing. Archie obviously knew on some intellectual level of the rivalry. His teams never played PU like the game mattered to him or them much, aside from the Haarms tip-in loss, maybe. Conversley Woody’s record against Purdue shows he gets it — but it’s damning about how he failed to capitalize on his team’s talent in too many other games.

Margin’s gonna do wonders for the efficiency metrics

I think Goodman is clearly right that Otz is a good choice, the issue with Goodman (and other access journalism) is when he ventures his opinion it’s impossible to tell if he’s 1. Giving a straightforward, sincerely held opinion, or 2. Performing an explicit or implicit favor to a source he maintains. His reporting is fine, but lots of college bball media is driven by reporters’ access to coaches.

Listen if someone posts a picture of a plane, I’m gonna call it like I see it. I live less than two miles from a municipal airport totally irrelevant to the search, so I’ve seen many small airplanes in my day. Very very good at spotting them.

We can all agree that’s a plane

https://iuovpgc-fireform.eas.iu.edu/online/form/index/apra

To me he’s a dark horse if IU gets down the list a bit. NW has been to the tournament 3x IN ITS HISTORY and he was the coach each time. And they’ve won a game each time, always in a toss-up game (7/10 or 8/9). There was a time I would’ve worried he’d leave for Duke but Scheyer seems in no danger of leaving (unless the nba comes calling eventually?). Not my favorite option but if it were him I absolutely think it could work.

Two of the folks in the know casually mentioned that the info spigot has turned back on for the candidate #1 but because Rabby needs to sell subs we are discussing “Brad Brownell”