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Carey was on staff when they decided to hire Bell right so that creates some doubt. Why not hire him since you already knew of his abilities. However, TA has not made the best hires or lack of fires recently so maybe...

Well that would be tempting then for sure. Hopefully we get the NIU version of him

Never really knew much about Carey but he seemed to have a good thing going at Northern Illinois. "Carey would go 52–30 at the helm of the Huskies and won two Mid-American Conference championships and four MAC West Division titles. Carey also defeated four Big Ten Conference opponents during his tenure" Then he left for ... Temple. At Temple he had 1 good year, covid then a really bad year and was fired. Anyone know why he left Northern Illinois for Temple? Seems lateral at best.

It did seem akward but him playing is a good first step. As for him being injured the rest of the season, doesn't he run the risk of having his contract roll over if he misses a certain number of games?

Yep. Play for today and show the colts or your next team what your value is. Kind of a tough deal for RBs on the rookie contract who do not generally have a long shelf life but it is what it is at this point.

If they just pay the lease, it is probably about $600k/yr. Insurance may bump that up but certainly a big bang for the buck deal

I think it was that boy is good which I thought was a little iffy.

you and USPS need to try and stay on topic. This is now the "all gas, no brakes" thread.

Well now doggonit how am I supposed to sleep. This old fella has to work early tomorrow

Tony have any connections to the program?

So is it safe to assume you are hearing from people who have good info? Cuz I like that kind of info lots

I am not saying this formula locks this in for life. Instead, who could we get and what would it cost. Do we swing low and hope or do we swing bigger and overpay. Assuming we want to invest heavily, I am curious how much that requires. If we have someone come in, do well then move up that is something I can only remember happening once since I have been following (Sam Wyche). Cincinnati has found a way to keep chugging along, surely we can too.

I would have passed on this set up tbh. If we should expect "to have a seat at the table" in recruiting top kids I would want the same concept here. I would have been ok with year 1 - Yum Center year 2 - UK or Bloomington year 3 - Lucas Oil year 4 - Bloomington or UK

Pivoting another way, what coach could we attract that has the highest probability of getting us to the following somewhat modest goals: Bowl game 4/5 years Top 20 ranking 1/4 years No major embarrassing moments Then what would it take/year to bring in such a coach and staff.

They remind of shoes that Baymax fella would like

Rabby made a comment on the HH podcast that was interesting. He said that one of, if not the primary reason, Kansas was not invited tot the BT when Nebraska came was that the BT looked at the investment Kansas was making towards the football program and decided they were not serious about it and thus were not invited. Last year Kansas announced a big investment decision in the football program. Kansas announces plans for over $300M in football upgrades - ESPN If Kansas can get $300M for football facilities upgrades, then one would think that IU could find funds to at a minimum, make a coaching change and hire a legit staff. IU has $3.3 Billion in their endowment which certainly has some restrictions that keep it from being an easy source of money. But, schools have "loaned" money from endowments and if there some solid financials on how winning football teams create reveune for the school, could this even be considered an investment. If we stand pat, do we run the risk of being left behind by the BT because we are not serious about football? A contrarian question would be can we even hope to keep up as the top 20-30 football programs may choose a "premier league" format and we might not be able to get into that realm anyway. Would it be better to spend to show we are serious despite the risk of being left out of the Premier College Football League? I think it is, because even if that league is developed, there is still a tier 2 after that and we are no where near even being in that second tier. I would love to be in those leadership meetings to hear whether IU feels we have no hope or whether there are paths like this open but we cannot decide whether to jump in.

He mentioned something about making a decision in a few weeks and isn't Hoosier Hysteria on 10/20? If IU were to broadcast him on the scoreboard screen and he chose then to commit to IU would that take away from the others at the even or add more excitement?

I kind of get the reasoning. Big success and even the players were gushing about LEO and TA. That one TV game where players were running to the reporter interviewing TA and telling everyone to come play for this man. It all looked so promising it is simply amazing that it crumbled so quickly. Still think TA is a good DC and if he had made reasonable personal decisions it might be better

This is clever. A boogie with a hoodie, hmm

He may not want one but wonder if there might be a way to get him on the staff in some capacity. Can colleges have scouts or ambassadors? He would not have to hit it hard but for about 2-3 recruits a year it would be nice to get a visit from Carmelo

RMK and TA are pretty much of polar opposites in both success and how they treat people. Winning grants you a lot of leeway whereas being a great guy dies on the vine quickly if the team is bad. If we just had an average football team TA would be in a good spot.

Hmm another small forward now taking a visit to Kansas.

Most of those freaking out are doing so because we have not had regular success with getting 5* high school commits. History cannot be ignored but hopefully we can change history. We seem to be in really good shape but as you said, Woody needs to close the deal. Second place in recruiting is terrible. It is really worse than being eliminated early because we have all the efforts in a few kids and if you lose out you are in scramble mode.

This is one I hope to watch. My daughter played club soccer with Bramblet who is starting as a freshman for the Buckeyes and I am curious to see how her game translated to this level. Outstanding, unselfish, midfielder but I wonder how that translates with the physical play of the BT.

Good to hear. Staff seems confident in landing all 3 or getting what they want in the portal. While we have been good in the portal I would not want to count on that every year. Hoping Woody's confidence in getting things done once at the table doesn't backfire. Would sure be cool to have a narrow search and get most of your top targets.