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  It is the same that it has always been.  I started posting on sports message boards in 1995 or 1996...the original IndyStar boards did not even require registration, anyone could post under any name they saw fit for any given post.  RMK fan versus anti-RMK fan was very much a thing at that time leading up to Bobby's firing.  Of course the dynamic was different, obviously RMK had an established track record.  But the anti-RMK sentiment was based on the game passing him by and the time being right for a chance.   During the Mike Davis era/fiasco, whichever description you prefer, you had the dynamic of people who would defend the existing coach to death versus those who did not buy in.  Although honestly a lot of the MD debate in his early days revolved around RMK loyalists against people who wanted to give the new coach a chance.   One of the unfortunate side affects of the Internet in general is that people start to take their own opinion too seriously and they start rooting for their own opinion just to have the chance to tell the other guy/gal that hey, I called it and in your face!  I'm right and you are wrong!  Even if we root for the same freaking team!  But...it is the way it has been for a long time.  The advent of the Tom Crean era at IU did not start the trend, it simply is the way the internet works. 

I like this thread because the crean supporters come here and haha at the fire train when we win and the fire train comes here and ha has at the supporters after a loss so it's like a never ending cycle

We can talk Tom Crean until we're blue in the face (and that's exactly what we've done) but he won't be fired this season. 

      I'm pretty sure I'm not going to watch it again.

From the way it sounds I'm glad I didn't get to watch the game. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I have to chyme in here... I love the folks that say this season is worse than any of Crean's first 3 years.   I absolutely have to laugh at that, because those first three years victories were something ridiculous like 6,10, and 12... yes there have been frustrations with this team, but I remember when we were dead last in the B1G 3 years in a row... this year ain't nothing like those years...

I just don't see why one group didn't participate in a game thread.  As long as you don't act like an ass and can play with the rules, you should come on the game thread.  If you can't get your point across during a game without acting like a jackass you shouldn't be on there.  If you can't make it through a game without saying xxxx player or coach is an idiot (because it is personal), you shouldn't be on there.  If you said, "I don't understand why xxxx player or coach did…" then you are fine.  I am going to take that as you saying you don't think a group of people can play by the rules.  If that is the case they shouldn't be on during the game.  We value everyone who participates in any thread, but this us vs. them attitude is getting to be complete bullshit.  I graduated from IU.  I live and breath that damn school.  We are all here for the same damn reason.  It is sad that a group of grown ass men can't hold a conversation without being butthurt at someone not holding their opinion on a subject.  Heaven forbid we disagree on the internet.  There is no right or wrong in this.  I wish people would realize that.  If Crean gets fired in 3 years, who is right?  I can sling shit at a wall and see if it sticks too.  After 5 years of him not being fired are the people saying he will be fired wrong?  Or do they keep on saying it will happen at any time?  Seriously, this is the one thread that could be open for years.  I hope we are able to keep it open until he does get fired so we can look back at some of the ridiculous "absolutes" throughout here.  I love you guys, but you can really kill a good buzz.     …. drops mic  :shout:

[quote name="All_Hoosiers" post="44910" timestamp="1394075272"]We can talk Tom Crean until we're blue in the face (and that's exactly what we've done) but he won't be fired this season. [/quote] Lol exactly. This thread is getting tiresome. He's probably farther away from getting fired than any of us even realize. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Go New Albany Bulldogs! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

We should have made the tourney. We shouldn't have lost to BIG basement dwellers. This team had the talent. I'm not on the train to let Crean go, but I seriously question where his head is at during games. Sub patterns that don't make sense, unprepared teams, and the inability to figure out a zone. You can be stupid or you can be stubborn. Don't be both. 

The only thing that really changes is the names. Doesn't matter what sport or what team it's all the same.     If you have a good moderating staff they'll try to keep it so people are respectful to each other and the team. If not the place turns into Scout and everyone leaves except for the few who drove everyone else away. It's a simple formula that isn't quite so simple to execute.  It's pretty easy to over or under enforce to the detriment of the group. Many places end up under enforcing either out of an overly idealistic sense of freedom of speech or they tire of the battle and give up. Getting it right is a never ending and mostly unappreciated task. 

This is going to be the norm in college basketball. It is hard to lose 4 starters from a really good team and reload in a season. We could have had victor and Cody still this year and we roll over everybody. But they left. Look at Kentucky. They have the greatest recruiting class "in history" and they are limping along. Experience is the name of the game and it is harder and harder to keep great placers long enough to get that experience. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

If you look back at Crean's entire tenure at IU, this is the first disappointing regular season he's had. Everything else he met my expectations or surpassed them. This year I predicted us at 20-10 with a 7-10 ranking in the tournament. I knew how young this team was and how difficult it was going to be to lose 4 YEAR STARTERS in Hulls and Watford. One could argue their leadership and drive were just as big of losses as Cody & VO's talent. I'm disappointed that we aren't going to the Big Dance. But it isn't shocking given the make up of out league and roster. Sit back, hope we make a respectable run in the NIT and then shift focus over to next year. I'm very excited to see what our Freshman do over their first real summer in Bloomington. We could be pretty damn good next year with out even taking into account the newbies. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

^^^^ I am sure I will piss some people off with that.  Sorry if I offended anyone.  I just want people to act like adults.  I really don't want to have to deal with this "I told you so" crap from either side anymore.  Neither side is right at this point.  Neither side will ever truly know how much goes into a decision such as this.  His basketball coaching abilities at this point aren't everything to the university.  If people quit donating at record numbers, then his in game coaching will be a problem.  

Sectionals start Mar 4. I believe there will be streams available for some these games. Sectional Tournament Pairings Brackets Streams Twitter

The game truly was that miserable to watch.  Although if I was sitting next to either of them, I'd have a good excuse not to pay attention to the s*** show.

    Do as you wish. I saw it once, that was more than enough for me. ;)

as a matter of fact...lest anyone forget... the pinnacle of frustration at IU was just a couple of years ago when IU finished dead last in basketball and football 2 years in a row...   and if memory serves me correctly...IU is the only team in the B1G to accomplish such a feat...

[quote name="wsteele" post="44681" timestamp="1394065544"]Go New Albany Bulldogs! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] NAHS... The dog pound! (Although I went to Floyd Central all my friends were at NA) Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="Naturalhoosier" post="44567" timestamp="1394035176"]Yuppers. Born/raised in Huntington. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] Damn nice I am from logansport

I don't want to belittle anyone because we are all entitled to our opinion, but anyone that thinks Crean should be fired soon is an idiot. You can not build a program without stability ( see IU football). National championships are not our birthright anymore. It's a different day. Nationalized recruiting and cable TV has changed the game. Judging Coach Crean by McCracken or Knight is unfair. That program is gone. Knight, Davis and Samscum took care of that. That being said, IU should be a top 30 team pretty consistently. That's what I'm watching. After next year I'll know if I want Coach Crean gone. I was expecting a down year and have always felt that IU wouldn't make the tourney. This team has fight. I like that. Next year the seat could start getting warm... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Not even close.