NCAA Women's Bball Transfer Portal

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20 minutes ago, TTT said:

So much for Kubek as she goes to Florida State.

Boo! Waiting for a high-low post of Zania-Edessa, with Edessa stepping back to hit 3's. Need some positive surprises from this group.

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Looks like Emily Rodriguez visit to Iowa May 12 and Indiana May 13.
Can it get any more difficult for IU Ladies?  Just not as easy vs many teams.  Good Grief!

T.  Moren head coach under 19 FIBA coach again in Czech Republic…..Seems like it should translate into a more high level recruiting but it doesn’t appear to be the case….Wonder if that ever becomes a full time gig for her?….doubt it would pay enough.  Maybe, a good way to experience some travel doing what you like leaving behind a legacy.

(Zoe Jackson 2026 Australia looks like she can play at 6’4”)….how good remains to be seen.

 

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9 hours ago, TTT said:

Looks like Emily Rodriguez visit to Iowa May 12 and Indiana May 13.
Can it get any more difficult for IU Ladies?  Just not as easy vs many teams.  Good Grief!

T.  Moren head coach under 19 FIBA coach again in Czech Republic…..Seems like it should translate into a more high level recruiting but it doesn’t appear to be the case….Wonder if that ever becomes a full time gig for her?….doubt it would pay enough.  Maybe, a good way to experience some travel doing what you like leaving behind a legacy.

(Zoe Jackson 2026 Australia looks like she can play at 6’4”)….how good remains to be seen.

 

I read on an Iowa blog that Emely Rodriguez was asking for $250,000/year in NIL payments. Not sure if that is true, but that raises the whole idea of paying players in college athletics. Is this such a good idea?

1. In Europe, if universities have athletic teams, they are sort of like intramurals, i.e. for fun. If you are seriously interested in a sport in Europe, you join a local athletic club and compete for that club . . . sort of like youth sports in the US.

2. In the US, we have preserved the idea of "college athletics", but it has now become some version of professional sports, where the players are paid. It is not about "student-athletes" or "amateur sports". And with the transfer portal, open bidding becomes possible on the best players.

That raises a few questions: why 4 years of eligibility? An average student at IU graduates in 4 years, but the new NIL athletes are not "average students". If the Chemistry Department at IU hired an outstanding faculty member, they would want to keep that person, and even grant them tenure to encourage lifetime work at IU. Why are the student athletes (at least in NIL sports) booted out in 4 year?

The incongruity of this all is seen in the Olivia Miles case--she literally is making TONS MORE money by playing with TCU next year and getting NIL, as opposed to entering the WNBA, which pays peanuts. Olivia Miles will probably make more money next year than everyone in TCU basketball, except for the head coach.

You can go on the internet and find out exactly how much money the roster of the Indiana Pacers is being paid. Shouldn't that be the case with college athletics and NIL now?

I love IU basketball, but NIL and the transfer portal have transformed college athletics into something different, sadly. I guess there is no going back, so it seems that some new rules, at least re "transparency" might be a good idea? Or should we continue to hide NIL payments, and pretend that it is still the "old days"?

I think I can see why CTM resisted going the "NIL route", and I can also see why she would have had to accept the "NIL universe", because that is probably the only way you can succeed in college basketball these days.

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Indiana High School Choice, IHSAA, Indiana State Legislation……Effective June 1, 2025 any athlete (pool, tiddlywinks, basketball, football or basically any sport/athletics) can have a one time transfer for athletic reasons within three year period….for such reasons as playing time, forming a better championship team, or to improve whatever is deemed needed/wanted/necessary.  The new legislation reason is to streamline the process removing obstacles/barriers to transfer possibilities.

Yes, recruiting players among schools has always happened.  However, this new legislation does not apply to the rest of the public school students.

So, what has the public high school education experience become?  Does high school NIL version follow?  
An observation….years ago high school gyms throughout basketball season both, city, suburbs, country were pretty full and was a popular thing and often football as well.  
After millions upon millions $$ invested in new modern facilities over decades many if not most set pretty empty for most of the seasons.  Gyms often third of the way full and football facilities often a third full as well.  (Yes, there are some exceptions and in certain games/circumstances/situations).

 

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9 hours ago, mickey one said:

I read on an Iowa blog that Emely Rodriguez was asking for $250,000/year in NIL payments. Not sure if that is true, but that raises the whole idea of paying players in college athletics. Is this such a good idea?

1. In Europe, if universities have athletic teams, they are sort of like intramurals, i.e. for fun. If you are seriously interested in a sport in Europe, you join a local athletic club and compete for that club . . . sort of like youth sports in the US.

2. In the US, we have preserved the idea of "college athletics", but it has now become some version of professional sports, where the players are paid. It is not about "student-athletes" or "amateur sports". And with the transfer portal, open bidding becomes possible on the best players.

That raises a few questions: why 4 years of eligibility? An average student at IU graduates in 4 years, but the new NIL athletes are not "average students". If the Chemistry Department at IU hired an outstanding faculty member, they would want to keep that person, and even grant them tenure to encourage lifetime work at IU. Why are the student athletes (at least in NIL sports) booted out in 4 year?

The incongruity of this all is seen in the Olivia Miles case--she literally is making TONS MORE money by playing with TCU next year and getting NIL, as opposed to entering the WNBA, which pays peanuts. Olivia Miles will probably make more money next year than everyone in TCU basketball, except for the head coach.

You can go on the internet and find out exactly how much money the roster of the Indiana Pacers is being paid. Shouldn't that be the case with college athletics and NIL now?

I love IU basketball, but NIL and the transfer portal have transformed college athletics into something different, sadly. I guess there is no going back, so it seems that some new rules, at least re "transparency" might be a good idea? Or should we continue to hide NIL payments, and pretend that it is still the "old days"?

I think I can see why CTM resisted going the "NIL route", and I can also see why she would have had to accept the "NIL universe", because that is probably the only way you can succeed in college basketball these days.

I guess IU could offer $250,001/year Lol.  

A choice…..Turn it off and shut it down as a fan or not.  Find something else to do.  Sports/Athletics can do and be what they choose and a fan or ex- fan can be or do what he or she chooses.

[mickey one 110]

No one would be here if they were not a fan. The question is how NIL/portal has transformed college basketball. It looks like a team would need at least about $5 to $10 m. per year to be competitive at the highest level, on the women's side. Does IU have it? How does it get it? How will it be distributed? 

Keep in mind that even in professional sports, it is not open-ended bidding for players. There is the draft, and then structured contracts depending on your level in the draft, and salary caps for each team. If professional sports teams did not have those features, teams would probably be bankrupted by out-of-control bidding wars. It is only when players hit free agency that bidding wars erupt.

How is all this even possible for professional sports? Collective bargaining agreements (CBA) between the owners and players' unions impose order on what could be chaos and bankruptcy. Just turn on ESPN--all the commentators are expert in salary cap discussions, how much the "hit" is for signing a player, etc.  It is part and parcel of professional sports. Is any such thing as a CBA necessary or even possible at the college level?

If the NCAA does not impose some kind of order and fairness on the process, could it turn into the "Wild West" when it comes to bidding and money in college athletics?

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10 minutes ago, mickey one said:

No one would be here if they were not a fan. The question is how NIL/portal has transformed college basketball. It looks like a team would need at least about $5 to $10 m. per year to be competitive at the highest level, on the women's side. Does IU have it? How does it get it? How will it be distributed? 

Keep in mind that even in professional sports, it is not open-ended bidding for players. There is the draft, and then structured contracts depending on your level in the draft, and salary caps for each team. If professional sports teams did not have those features, teams would probably be bankrupted by out-of-control bidding wars. It is only when players hit free agency that bidding wars erupt.

How is all this even possible for professional sports? Collective bargaining agreements (CBA) between the owners and players' unions impose order on what could be chaos and bankruptcy. Just turn on ESPN--all the commentators are expert in salary cap discussions, how much the "hit" is for signing a player, etc.  It is part and parcel of professional sports. Is any such thing as a CBA necessary or even possible at the college level?

If the NCAA does not impose some kind of order and fairness on the process, could it turn into the "Wild West" when it comes to bidding and money in college athletics?

Couple years ago T. Moren attitude was that some rules and regulations of fairness and distribution were going to be needed.  How silly of her to even think about addressing common sense and integrity solutions.

[mickey one 110]

Apparently, NCAA schools can spend up to $23.1 m./year as a cap (Sports Illustrated says $20.5 m). I don't know how IU has decided to spend that, or how different teams (like football, men's and women's basketball) can compete within the school for that money.

["NCAA schools will be able to spend a maximum of $23.1 million each year, and that cap will increase on a yearly basis during the ten-year-long settlement agreement. The spending limit is based on a formula that gives NCAA athletes 22% of the money the average power conference school makes from media rights deals, ticket sales, and sponsorships. Time will tell if this settlement raises more questions than answers for NCAA schools." From McCarter & English attorney website.]