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What do you mean? The back court last year was Trey Galloway, Gabe Cupps, Anthony Leal, CJ Gunn, and Xavier Johnson for half a season. The fact that anyone seriously believes that Woodson should have played MORE 3 guard sets is truly astounding. He’s going to play more 3 guard lineups this year because he has: A) quality guards, as in multiple B) actual back court depth This isn’t hard people. Coaches run stuff tailored to their strength and personnel. You don’t put an option QB in shotgun and have him throw 50 times a game downfield. Trey Galloway would have started for a handful of B10 teams last year as a 4th of 5th option but I’m not sure Leal, Cupps, Gunn, etc crack the rotation at any other B10 school last year.

Will see it plenty of times next season.

Tell that to Purdue, Houston, Tennessee, Iowa St, and NC State.

Why isn't it ideal? Half the teams that finished in the top 10 of the Final AP poll played either two "true" bigs or a 4 man who was either low volume and/or inefficient from 3 which makes your take in fact, illogical. It's just a stupid narrative for people to use as to why they think Mike Woodson can't coach. Our guards collectively sucked last year, nothing more, nothing less. There's more than one way to win a basketball game. IU wasn't bad because Reneau and Ware played together.....and would have only been that much worse had Woodson staggered their minutes for the sake of playing "modern basketball".

You act like IU, and evidently Purdue, were the only two teams in the country who played two bigs last year. I want to know what fantasy land you are living in? Surround Reneau and Ware last year with competent guards who can dribble and shoot off the bounce and we're a top 25 tournament team the entire year. Yes, suggesting that playing Ballo and Reneau is a recipe for a ton of losses to top 25 teams considering our major upgrades at the guard position is totally without reason.

See Purdue in every game they played in last year

What do you call upgrading Cupps and Galloway with Rice and Carlyle?

Purdue went to the national title game starting two 5's. The difference? Purdue's 1-3: 199-496 40% from 3 IU's 1-3: 90-292 31% from 3 And Purdue fed the post EVERY.DAMN.TIME down the floor. This idea that two "big" men, aka non-40% 3pt shooters, can't co-exist on the floor together is the single worst argument on this forum. Just so mind-numbingly dumb any and every time I hear somebody say it.

Ballo and Galloway need to become much better FT shooters to be on the floor end of game crunch time.

And the NYK demoted Glen Grunwald and hired Steve Mills and Phil Jackson who cleaned house and the franchise went into the absolute can for the remainder of the decade. Absolute dumbest thing the Knicks did was fire Woodson in favor of Derek Fischer who was familiar with Jackson’s Triangle offense. They won 17 games the year after they fired Woody and never recovered under that regime. Didn’t once sniff the playoffs despite chronically going over the luxury tax. Nitpicking a coach for finishing in the top third of the entire league in 3 pointers made and attempted is laugh out loud funny.

Gottlieb was very good at OK State on some pretty darn good teams. Didn't need to score because he was always setting up his teammates. Lead the nation in assists in both his junior and senior seasons and finished his career as the B12's all-time assist leader and on top of being 7th all-time nationally. One of the better pure point pure guards to play at the collegiate level. Have no clue how that will translate to being a successful coach, but he was very successful as a player.

His team in New York won 54 games (the most wins from that franchise since the 96-97 season) and lead the league in both 3 pointers made and 3 pointers attempted.

I'd add Charlie Miller and Troy Williams. Charlie Miller more so than Troy Williams, but both examples of high level athletes who could never really translate that to production on the court sans Williams junior year.

The guy very clearly didn’t read the article which was entirely about roster construction. Woodson’s comments when put into context clearly suggest he isn’t married to the idea of playing two bigs because of the other pieces he added in the portal.

Lol

I don't know what the hell that means or what that has to do with what you said earlier? Delusional if you think Ware and Reneau are the reason why IU was bad last year.

Or it alludes to the fact that IU actually now has depth and versatility to play a combination of lineups if one in particular isn't working. Reneau and Ware were by far and away the two best players from start to finish last year, hence the reason they both played 30 mpg together last season. But you knew that.

Did anyone seriously think one of Ballo or Reneau wouldn't start?

He has a top 10-15 roster next year, who cares how old he is? And he’s not 68 either. So theoretically, had IU hired any other coach who was younger than say 50, these last 3 years are now somehow now respectable? But they aren’t because of the coach’s age? It’s ok for a younger coach to lose? Most mind-numbingly dumb thing I’ve ever heard. Narratives…..I get it.

*upset (twice) with a plethora of NBA talent. Context remember, don’t leave it out. And JFC, nobody is comparing Woodson to Hurley. I’m comparing the standard to which this board has held Woodson through 3 seasons to the standard UConn held Hurley through 4 years….which was much worse. It’s a direct response to a poster who said a real basketball program wouldn’t have tolerated Woodson’s first 3 seasons.

He had 4 future NBA players the year they were upset by Maryland in the first round including lottery pick James Bouknight and then another 4 future NBA players the following year when they lost as a 5 seed to New Mexico St, three of them who remained for the following seasons title team. So glad you could clear up that context.

Delusional…

People were calling for Archie's head after year 2. He lost 12/13 games with a top 5 recruit and an All B10 player in Juwan Morgan.

So by that logic, a big boy program like UConn would have fired Danny Hurley for not winning a single tournament game in 4 years? Thank you for making my point.

Lol. You disagreed with an opinion I shared and inferred I was on drugs. The hell else do you call that?