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Very interested to know what we paid Harris vs what Dorn was asking.

I think our starting 5 is top 25 good. However, basketball rotations go 8-10 men deep. Sherrell and Burton are all-conference caliber players. Lindsay is a very good starter and I believe Samet to be more than competent. Ceiling depends on Mustaf and Harris, one of those two need to breakout. I'm extremely worried about depth, especially if the plan is to play Sherrell at the 4. I'm not at all convinced Sisley is ready to be a 20-25 mpg contributor. Health is going to be a major concern with this team as well. With the way the roster is constructed...it appears we're banking on a bunch of guys going ~30mpg, I don't like it, especially with Samet and Sherrell.

I think Allen Graves is a strong lean for them if he doesn't stay in the draft. He's a local kid.

Think he's a done deal to Florida if/when that happens.

And kept them fresh. Mara and Johnson each played less than 25 mpg. Running Samet and Sherrell out there for 30+ mpg a night is going to be a disaster. You almost have to do it because the drop off is going to be significant.

Good rebounding rate and a spectacular block rate. Not sure how he'd hold up if he had to play extended minutes but would be an exceptional rotation piece.

Dorn might end up being a piece we wish we kept when all said and done. His ability to stretch the floor in a 2 big lineup may be missed.

Bradshaw is the perfect 17-18 mpg big this team needs off the bench. He’s a quality depth piece and good enough to the point where you won’t fall off a cliff if Samet or Sherrell get hurt. His lack of development over the course of his career is concerning, but at this stage he is what he is and that’s more than competent for the role we need to fill the most.

Givan wouldn't be a terrible late add as development piece. Still doesn't solve the puzzle for a back up big for this, neither does Wang in my opinion. Sayon Keita intrigues me as well, but again, not sure what he gives us for next year. Can't run Sherrell and Samet into the ground by the end of the season. Need depth.

I would hope the staff is looking to fill the 6th-8th spots, not the 11th-13th.

The timing of the Pacers run to the finals was probably the hold up in bringing Carr over. Pacers season ended June 22md and the draft was 3 days later.

Doesn’t need to be a secondary ball-handler or creator to be a 3 and D player. I’d prefer my 4 to have a little more size and athleticism, just my preference though.

Of course just my opinion, I just don't see how the staff can realistically come to the conclusion that he's your first frontcourt player off the bench if you have high expectations, based on what he's shown thus far. You're an Aiden Sherrell or Samet Yigitoglu injury away from being a bubble team at best if the plan is to have Sisley and an insurance 5 be your frontcourt rotational pieces. I just don't know how the staff could feel comfortable elevating Sisley to a ~25 mpg role if something were to happen to one of the two proven frontcourt players on the roster. I'm not saying you need to get a Tobe Awaka, but there is a grand canyon sized gap between him and someone like Langdon Hatton.

Yep. A fresh backcourt is the best backcourt. Most these bigs cap out at an efficiency level at a certain minute allocation. Dumb to want to run your backcourt into the ground and then say we only need an insurance big. I'm not sure how that makes sense? Plenty of teams with elite starting backcourts found 17-20 mpg for a big off the bench. Arizona did it. Illinois did it. Morez and Mara each played less than 25mpg last year for Michigan.

I don't anticipate Sherrell or Shamet playing more than 25 mpg a piece next year. Regardless if you stagger them or not, there's still ~30 front court minutes available. Unless we're guaranteeing 15 mpg to Sisley at the 4 (which would be dumb), there's a 15-20mpg at minimum to sell a tweener 4/5. Getting an insurance 5 and letting Sisley be the first frontcourt player off the bench would be staff negligence.

That reads as a "steal a few possessions" guy. That's a Langdon Hatton. Need more than that off the bench.

Somebody like an Aaron Bradshaw who has been a career 16-17mpg player at the P4 level or a low major starting looking for a bigger payday and chance to play elite competition. They are out there. Iowa was able to convince the 2025 Horizon POY Alvaro Folgueiras to come be a 20 mpg guy off the bench, not sure why we can't do that with somebody this year.

But that isn't the type of pitch IU has going into next year. IU has two proven front court players right now on it's entire roster and those guys are expected to start along side each other. Sisley obviously figures to factor into the rotation somewhere, but he's more of a tweener 3/4 than he is a 4/5. You can easily sell 15-18 mpg game to a more than serviceable big and not have to worry about breaking any promises. Honestly, I think Sisley's best path is improving as a ballhandler and perimeter shooter and becoming a 3 and D player on the wing. I'm not terribly comfortable playing Sisley exclusively at the 4 until he improves his strength and rebounding numbers.

IU didn't pay the kind of money they did for either of them just to stagger them. They paid premium money to create mismatches on both ends by playing them together. Still think we need another 6'11-7 foot banger that can defend and rebound off the bench.

I'm not wrong. You said Stirtz/McCollum were going to be a problem for the B10. They went 10-10 and lost to Penn State and Maryland, the two worst teams in the conference. They weren't close to contending in the B10 this year, they were .500. They finished exactly one game ahead of us, with a much easier schedule....and we were not good at all. A fluke tournament run doesn't change any of that.

10-10 is decidedly average, not sure what else to tell you.

I don't even know what you're saying anymore? We don't have room for a 15+ minute per game big off the bench because the names anonymous posters are throwing around on message boards are too big for the perceived role? That seems different from you previously stating that we don't have hardly any minutes to sell.

Oh, so fan speculation lol? Got it. Samet and Lindsay weren't mentioned anywhere before either popped out of the blue.

What names have been mentioned?

Ok? 15+ mpg for a backup big is plenty to sell. You keep saying otherwise.