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There’s a piece up on ITH now with Fife talking a lot about Rob, how he doesn’t see a better defender in the B1G, how he sees an easy fix to his shot noting how many shots Rob took moving laterally, and being there for kick outs with feet set. That sounds like a starter, and thing is the poll has him only as a point, but Woody is looking to have a different guy bring the ball up repeatedly and Rob can play well off ball and bring it up - I see him as starting. I’m hoping Lander is ready to start as primary ball handler or at least one of them, there’s no one as quick, and he was the no. 1 ranked point in his class for good reason. I think the other starting on ball / primary ball handler will be X, driving and kicking or dishing off to TJD. After TJD, I just have no idea at this point. Bates is going to be fantastic, but he hasn’t played a college game yet. Doubt he starts, though maybe by mid season. No one seems to be talking about Hunter but he can spread the floor and I’m hoping he’s close to 100 percent and now in a system and under a motivating, encouraging coach that will let him rip the outside shots. Kopp was brought in to knock them down. Race is a better all around player (imo) and if gets the jumper going watch out. Geronimo has monster potential - will he hit from outside with more shots, Guys are brought in on transfer and we focus on them but that kid could kill it this season. Stewart? Can’t tell yet, promise is there. Started to do this poll but gave up lol

awesome, he's a computer guy too!

"He's a skilled three-level scorer with size who can go get his own bucket. His biggest strength is in his ability to make shots off the catch and pull from three and will make a for scoring punch in Bloomington next season." Really looking forward to seeing this kid get up and down the floor. Two-way wing who's a "skilled three-level scorer with size" who biggest strengths include pullups from 3? Can't wait.

I don't know I heard N/A was really good. :0

Time to update the thread title - Yogi has signed a 2-year deal with the Clips - Good to see him land his new deal and with a much much better franchise

Not projection, have watched him shoot, that’s too small a sample size to draw any conclusion from. He has a pretty decent stroke. No, no one is calling him Bielfeldt

And Race has shown the ability to hit from outside, now he’ll play on an offense and under a coach who pushes that. Race has the tools imo and his demonstrated all around game is simply better

Adragna is excellent. Love his clips, thanks for posting DWB

It’s not either or for me - Geronimo has monster potential, best nba potential on the team imo and he can shoot and we should see a lot more of him and his shooting under Woodson — but, Hunter has the ability to really spread the floor. He may or may not ever have that explosion you’re talking about again, but his game was always a more smooth - sort of Wat-like game, not built on quick-twitch / explosion. If he returns fully healthy I see a lot of Wat - like game in him - and remember Wat went from a guy people complained about for his inability to move laterally quickly on D and soft attempts at the rim through his soph year to one of the best on-ball defenders on the team

Also consider the source, just more confidence destroying by cam

Yeah he showed a really nice baby hook early when Cam ran some sets to get him looks, converted well, and then poof we never saw cam run those sets for him again (another mind-boggling failure to run actual available offense). That baby hook is sweet, would love to see more of it

I've been more of a Hunter fan than some, really like his upside and potential in Woodson's anticipated get-up-and-down / spread-the-floor 4-out offense. He will have the "green light" he's needed to regain his confidence, which CAM and his plodding, limit the 3-ball offense seemed to undermine. He is the type of player who should really benefit from Woodson's system. He's better than a 34% shooter, and would bank on him shooting in the area of 38% or better in Woodson's offense. Pulling for the kid, really like what he can bring.

Really hard question this year, especially because it comes with a complete change in offensive philosophy to go with a complete change in coaching and new veteran players. I can see reasons for several players to show real improvement in production. Hunter for his shooting and a full season removed from his lost year — confidence and spacing for the arc. Lander as he’ll now have a college body to go with the experience he gained, and in that offense, and not a pac line D, he can shine, his P&R potential with TJD is huge. Geronimo— this kid has so much potential, he already has the athleticism and D, his floor awareness is now ready and yes he can shoot, I expect him to bloom under Woodson whether or not it happens early on. Leal for his shooting, this kid can really shoot in a system that utilizes spacing, he has more work than say Lander to round out his game but the opportunity is there

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Agree it's the shiny new thing syndrome in full effect. And Galloway is getting underrated and dismissed out of hand. The kid is good, he just 1) needs to develop a jumper, and 2) is a frosh that needs to make that frosh-to-soph jump. There's no reason to think he won't, the talk all past summer was that he was playing so well and hard in summer scrimmages and practice that he might start. Then, ultimately and after playing strong, really the best of the frosh, he did. Then his lack of a jumper was exposed, teams scouted him and sagged off, and he gradually played less -- as he should have until he develops the jumper. But he was a FROSH who showed promise. Developing a team -- which Woodson is very good at -- means developing the players you have along with adding (now through the portal) and building on the chemistry you have. We have transfers, we have upper classmen, we have young players with promise, and maintaining and building on the chemistry you have is important. I would bet on, and look forward to seeing, Galloway continue to develop and add to the team.

Horrible, feel so bad for his family

Over the summer CAM touted Rob as one of the team’s top 3 outside shooters (with Al and Hunter). That was from over the summer scrimmaging and practice not games but he was hitting. He has the form and the ability imo, a lot seems to be about where his head is and whether he’s being encouraged to shoot. Hope he can show that shooting in games next season

Not following you. Among several available possible lineups -- TJD, Galloway, Stewart, Rob, Johnson / TJD, Stewart, Johnson, Rob, Lander etc. etc. Not getting your pushback. The team will run multiple lineups, as usual except under CAM, with multiple looks. We have depth, as in actual depth, and in a 4-out we're not talking traditional power forward/center lineups, that's the point, more guys can run at what this piece is defining as the "power forward" spot. So Baylor started a 6'10 forward and basically 4 guards. All I'm saying is the article is looking a the "4" as a traditional PF, that's limiting, we're going to see a lot of lineups and I'd bet on some pure small ball sets.

same applies to Hunter. He's better than a 34% shooter, the spreadout game is going to benefit him

Good with Race, but there are other guys not included who can play within a 4-out. It's a "power forward" breakdown. It doesn't look at incorporating more small ball sets such as using Stewart, Galloway or Leal. It's a height-based look. Galloway's strength is downhill attacks and finishing at the rim, we all know he needs to develop a jumper but he could potentially flourish with shooters around him. Stewart and Leal are 6'5 shooters. I'd bet on seeing some true small-ball lineups, this writeup just doesn't look at guys under 6'7 except Geronimo because of his obvious athleticism.

Decent writeup but I think it's a bit off on the "power forward" analysis, it's more of a traditional analysis than a 4-out. Will be interesting to see how Woodson implements his offense at IU.

It’s funny, my initial reaction to the Woodson hire was straight disappointment - with all of the build up surrounding Beard etc. But after just a little time, starting to think about the draw Woody could and probably would have in recruiting as a successful, long- term, well-respected NBA coach, and his IU pedigree and the likely immediate credibility all of that would bring, and his record of improving teams in the NBA, I then thought wait, this could turn out to be really good. And now we’re seeing major early returns. Talk about hitting the ground running. I mean, damn. Beyond impressive. Immediately brought players back and filled clear needs in transfers and landed a true two-way stud, elite recruit. And already connecting well with the players by all accounts. I’m not sure what high school recruiting is going to look like in a year with this whole portal thing, but I am sure our recruiting is going to be strong going forward — and with that there’s every reason to believe now that we’ll be a really strong program again and soon.

Lol at Jeff Goodman's trolling -- Jeff Goodman @GoodmanHoops · 4h Indiana Fans: Miller Kopp > JJ Redick

I'm pumped. The length, stretch-the-floor, mobile forwards, and get up and down team is in full effect,

Gotta add that splitting hairs in the 'rankings' doesn't really mean or reveal anything. Guys are ranked based on who saw them, when, how often, against what competition, what they're factoring into the ranking (e.g., athleticism, next-level potential on body-type, competition level, and so on), etc. The difference between a guy ranked 75 and a guy ranked 45 or 50? Often, nothing or you could even flip the two. Just saying that looking at a service's ranking has limited utility, it's why coaches scout heavily and offer guys close to our outside the top 100 all the time. Consensus top 10-15 or top 25 or so are usually in a different category depending on strength of class, but the higher you go the less the difference is.