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Yeah several misses at rim, would think they’ll clean that up

Real nice drive by Rob

Monster block

Nice steal by X. Offense not in sync yet

No it really Wasn’t. Leal went/dribbled into traffic, picked it up, had nowhere to go, and threw the ball low in bad position

Jinx! don’t know on Parker, hope not

He just turned it over

I don’t know Leal with the TO and missed 3 that lead to a 3

It’s one noncon game, wouldn’t read too much into it at least yet - jmo

Future Hoosiers!

Now that is good to hear

Iu 77 who cares 58

Well, I mean you were groggy from your nap, so ....

Ha, yeah I couldn't care less where I finish in the prediction league, just do it for fun, and posted before the Wisc game there was no way I was going to pick Wisc. I moved to Bloomington in '73 as a little kid, grew up in B-town through the '76, '81 and '87 championships, the last as a junior at IU, always an IU bball fan. Our O is a combination of integrating a group of new players and getting everyone on the same page in offensive sets, re-adjusting back to actually using the arc (thank God) with new outside shooters, and a roster that's still under construction in Woodson's first year. Looking at our recruiting and Woodson's schemes, the O will continue to get better.

He is basically a freshman, we disagree, but no issues there, people will disagree. However the scouts did not get it wrong. Just go read one of Rabby’s tweets about the kid he watched in HS, he was exceptional. Whether he can grow into that at the college level remains to be seen

The bolded part - for now - is where I am fwiw. I am somewhere in the middle here. Seems like there's a lot of positioning in this discussion way out on either end. Lander is a high-level talent. He's shown 'flashes' of outstanding vision. He wasn't rated one of the best point guards in his class by some fluke, he has extreme speed, court and play-making awareness, and his potential is clearly there. But we know he came in a skinny 17-year old re-classified kid. The people saying look, he didn't play last year, are just ignoring that. He was not ready, then, for the college game. And now, he's improved, he shown those flashes, but he's still basically a frosh, he makes 'frosh' mistakes, and his D has a ways to go. He also plays too fast -- it's the reason he's turned it over and made other offensive mistakes. The college game has not yet slowed down for him. So Woodson and staff have 2 veteran points, and they're playing them. Rob is excellent on D, and particularly when playing with X makes us better and more efficient on both sides of the ball. I don't think we should be playing Lander to avoid him transferring (assuming that's in play), but on the flip side, I also don't like the DNPs. Maybe it's a coaches tool, earn the PT by developing his D in practices etc., or maybe there's something else going on, whatever it is, to me, the DNP's need to end at some point. He has played well at times in his limited minutes this season. He's also not played so well. Same was true of Leal, fwiw. So staff is playing experience (just like starting Kopp every game even when he plays poorly). And the vets have by and large played well together (especially with Rob and X on the court together). And we're 9-2 with those very close losses thrown in. So I don't fault the staff, but still, at some point, Lander should be playing. I don't buy into the idea guys develop in practice without playing. They really don't, and Lander has the talent and could be excellent by next season.

So you're gunning for kb, right? :)

Tyler was a monster. Always fun to watch him play

Honestly think it's game confidence. Remember when CAM called Rob (over the summer) one the 3 best outside shooters on the team (with Al and Hunter)? His form is good, he has shown good outside shooting, but with all those injuries/head knocks and CAM's negative impact on outside shooting and point guard freedom, I think it's just screwed him up. He's absolutely playing better the past few games and had a strong game, regardless how one reads his stat line on shooting, against ND. He was the catalyst that got us back on track when we fell behind early and ND was controlling the tempo and in danger of making it a bad game for us. And fwiw he hit a couple at big, key moments in the game.

Oh sure, I agree -- but, as the line-up efficiency comparisons that have been posted previously reflect, Rob and X together are generally (with the other 3 players) the most efficient and productive lineups. The ball moves better, the floor opens up more, and we score better. That doesn't mean they don't or shouldn't be taking shots and hitting them, we can't have X taking 9 3's and hitting only 2 of them (which was an extreme outlier from his other games), and hopefully Rob will start hitting better again, but neither should be a primary outside shooter.

Its their combined play as points, not as scorers. They were the most efficient / productive unit in the last game, hands down. It's setting up the team, not being the primary outside shooters.

The more we play X and Rob together, the better. They compliment each other well, and Rob had a nice game against ND.

We lost in double OT at Cuse, and were up big at Wisconsin, where we haven’t won in almost 2 decades, but didn’t adjust and played not to lose resulting in a close loss, and are 9-2. I don’t see a lack of effort.

I see a lot if effort but at times, and often at the start of games, not enough focus. X tends to play to his emotions, haven’t seen him once play without effort.

Yes re Rob with X - those 2 got us clicking, but what the simple plus-minus misses is how much Rob helped in the first when we went down 10 - and this is not to dis X but he was missing on several bad shots during that early play. Yes also on Race, he’s not only gotten stronger on both ends he’s leading the team in steals