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And why does he apparently have a perception that fans don't get to enjoy their team's success simply because they were skeptical in the offseason/preseason? Holier than thou much? "True fans" ... if we have a very successful season, go ahead and give yourselves a pat on the back and a big ole cookie with some milk. You good boys will have earned it. The rest of us will have to sit in the naughty corner wearing our dunce caps.

Stars and national ranking be damned. This kid can play no matter what label they wanna put on him. And if he wants to be here, he’ll be welcomed with arms wide open. This would absolutely be a statement recruiting win for CCC and staff. Do we know who the lead recruiter is, Sunseri?

Maybe a dumb question and off topic for the thread, but has Indy done something recently that makes it especially appealing for big events? Feel like every time I turn around they’re hosting some huge sporting events, concerts, conventions, etc. Don’t recall that being the case while I was around 10-15 years ago. Does anyone know if something policy related is driving that or more based on city layout and convenient proximity to venues or something? Just curious. I’d love to visit soon, seems like there’s usually something new/cool going on.

It's nobody's job to spoon feed you information, or anything, except your IRL caretaker spoon feeding you nourishment. You're just so far out of your depth. I provided confirmation that the Tyme account was using a paid AI tool to amplify their message, by their own admission, it was on their account. You admittedly don't spend time on X, so are largely uninformed about this topic of conversation. You had an extremely weak response when a screenshot was shared and called me a stalker. LoL. "Facts don't care about your feelings" or whatever you and your buddies like to say. Your reference to an insurrection is completely incoherent... and why do you think anyone gives two sh!ts about your "source" or anyone else reading this message board? Lmao.

Would be quite the big fish to land. QB Room with Tom Allen: Sorsby, Jackson, Williams, McKibbin, Purcell QB Room year 1 with CCC: Kurtis Rourke, Jackson, Cherry, Mendoza, Purcell Night and day. In year 2, possibly adding Julian Lewis to the mix? Incomprehensible leap forward in talent at IUFB, if it becomes official.

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On the bright side, tickets being cheaper means total expenses for my next home game trip to Bloomington will be lower. Sucks the football team has a bye week when IUBB plays SCar at home. Looks like I'll have to book the weekend of IUBB vs. Southern Illinois / IUFB vs. Michigan...

Have you considered going outside, touching grass, and getting some vitamin D in the sun? Ancient proverb from New Jersey: Always let the a$$hole get the last word. Not sure if it will be funnier when you can't resist and respond to this ridiculous post, or if you heed the old adage and give me the satisfaction of being the a$$hole here. (Read that in a whiny baby voice so it sounds just like you). Either way... And let's go Hoosiers

"Dear diary, Today the meanies in the Fire Mike Woodson thread were so harsh on him. They just refuse to see facts because everyone knows there isn't any validity to any way of thinking that's different than mine! I can't wait to make them eat crow when IUBB goes 22-9 and makes a S16! That will really show them!"

You could gripe about that in your diary, not the Fire Mike Woodson thread. Unless you just enjoy antagonizing people?

People aren’t going to buy what you’re selling if they have to squint really hard to see it. This non-con schedule kinda sucks lol. Could be worse… could be better. The way the NET works and how heavily the tournament committee weighs it as a metric, has not been great for the product of college basketball IMO. You’re basically incentivized to beat up bad teams… if you can. Yawn.

I didn't say it was the worst field ever. Ultimately we're going to have to see how it plays out. Don't see how it's controversial to say it's an underwhelming non-con schedule.

From a reddit poster: Battle 4 Atlantis teams are Arizona, Gonzaga, Indiana, Louisville, Oklahoma, West Virginia, providence and Davidson. Arizona, zags and maybe OU are the q1 games and ou is at 49 in Torvik (50 is the cut in NET). That’s not great. Edit: They looked at the wrong year so OU is projected 67 and not q1. SCAR is the only other game on the non-con that could be Q1 or Q2, I'm pretty sure. And they won't be what they were last season. We will have very few opportunities to get quality wins in the non-con. We'll probably need to dominate the B10 for a strong seed.

From a reddit poster: Battle 4 Atlantis teams are Arizona, Gonzaga, Indiana, Louisville, Oklahoma, West Virginia, providence and Davidson. Arizona, zags and maybe OU are the q1 games and ou is at 49 in Torvik (50 is the cut in NET). That’s not great. Edit: They looked at the wrong year so OU is projected 67 and not q1.

Don't mean to go down a rabbit hole, but the Tyme account also was using Tweet Hunter Pro. The user was asked about it and tweeted that he had no idea how it got on his account and he was removing access. When I googled that service, this was the result: "Tweet Hunter is an all-in-one Twitter growth tool, designed to help you grow and monetize your Twitter audience. Our goal is to make is as easy as possible for you to create high-performing content, build an audience around your topics of expertise, monetize and attract opportunities. Tweet Hunter helps you at every stage of growing a Twitter account. Whether it’s to create more and better tweets and threads, increase their reach, improve the business ROI they drive, or even engage with other people. We have developed an advanced, Twitter-dedicated AI engine as well as custom features that exist nowhere else in the market." 7 Day free trial, then $49/mo. There is no way that you set that up by accident, considering it's a paid service. We already know Tyme is unique from other IUBB burners on twitter/actually connected to someone. I don't personally think the IU administration is paying for an army of bots to defend Woody, but I think somebody with ties to Woody is helping push back on criticism of him. Woody would be unaware of anything going on in the background to that end, if anything of that sort is actually happening. I don't think it's all an army of bots, (though it's Twitter, so there certainly are plenty of them) but one key influencer (Tyme) offering a counter narrative and trying to amplify it with paid tools and private group chats, etc. Get a few bigger accounts (real people) to buy into their message and then from there, their work is largely done and the discourse plays out for the fanbase to take sides. The vitriol likely coming from bots / being a byproduct of the building tension that already exists throughout today's society. It's an election year. And apparently you're "woke" (according to shrekbag) if you don't think Woody is a good coach. Not sure how that one adds up... I totally agree that the offseason doldrums and complaints are repetitive. But as you say, can't win games in the offseason. It is easy to say something negative because we're coming off a very negative season. Some people are able to be more optimistic than others coming off that year. Some are more forgiving than others. If everyone was singing kumbaya, we believe in you Woody, you are the best HC we could ever have... the program would not be in any better shape and the conversation here would be just as not insightful as it is today. There is nothing of true substance to discuss at this point of the year for IUBB other than the non-con schedule today. We don't need to prepare to speak on the state of the program. The team needs to prepare to win. In the meantime, some will be more content to be hopeful and others will reserve praise until further down the line.

Liars? Burners? IMO, nah. We just have a huge, passionate fan base. Everyone has their own standards for what is good or acceptable to them and their own temperament in terms of how they respond/form their views over time. To each their own. A generally decent rule of thumb that I think applies here no matter where you fall on Woodson … never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

We have some people in this thread mad about booing last year. We have others mad about comments from Sr night months ago. Classic July for IUBB. November can't get here soon enough.

If you consider winning 6/10 games success, I guess what you said made sense. How many blowout losses too?

Hang the banner! EDIT: This is a dreadful statistic. Not evidence of success or building momentum... "Just win" ... we can all agree on that. Let's see it.

I am pretty sure I recall in Trilly’s discord people were mocking Tyme because he allegedly had a free discord with very few members. I would not be surprised if after his tweets became more popular, his discord grew, became private, and probably included some of these younger more popular IU accounts. Then they amplify his message in one way or another. Paid for or not, I don’t know. Organic or not? I think depends on how you look at it… Personally I wouldn’t say it’s normal behavior. But I don’t attribute it to Woody personally as if he’s asked for this. I think it’s more of a reflection of his insecurity that his inner circle is projecting online as they attempt to take back the narrative and the IU fan base has a ton of crazy fans with burners.

Yep. I don't know the financials since they weren't disclosed, but IIRC, we were top 10-20ish in NIL spending. Presumably the Hysterics had a decent amount to do with that. Our NIL spending seems to have become top 5-10ish based on Woody's funds from the Cooks and Simons. It's good to have a bigger war chest obviously. Shrinking it by cutting off the relationship with a grassroots $ NIL collective is curious. Cutting ties with the bozos was good though. It never should have gotten as far along as it did, especially because there are way better groups we could've been working with. Big donor support > grassroots funding. Sucks but a reality from a fundraising POV. It kind of seems like Woody just used these guys (hiring his daughter then allegedly acting like that is pretty nuts... and I don't doubt it one bit). Now he got what he wanted and they became more trouble than it was worth, so he lashed out. Spoke his mind. Then there was a little backlash to deal with so the PR machine got rolling. The article just doesn't move me. He is who he is.

Absolutely fantastic news.

Isn't it obvious that if he were better at his job (winning games) people would give him a longer leash when he does/says things that are questionable? Yes this is questionable - how does it help the program to end the NIL relationship and discontinue their fan events? You think it's hilarious that they were made to fly out there to be told they weren't welcome? Wow. Interesting you assume people are just complaining about him no matter what he does... Seems to be the same mindset he has towards non-true fans. We just want him to show accountability and do his job better, since he's our coach for next year.

Idk. Maybe Woody should have flown to LA to meet them. Enjoy a candle lit dinner. Go shopping on Rodeo Drive. Some pillow talk maybe.

He's such a great kid. I think the Heat culture will be perfect for him to develop in. Going to be cheering him on. Could be our next All Star alum some day... has the talent for sure.