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And you think these moves just happen over night? 3 months sounds like about the right timeline for something like this to happen. Losing early in the playoffs just seals the deal on what they already understood was an option for them. The timing of when things are made public do not = the timing of when conversations are had behind closed doors. Honestly its just funny how you come in disparaging someone who has been around here a lot longer than you and contributes way more to the board than you do, acting like you're some omnipotent being. It's entertaining really.

Still waiting on your response bud

Do you think they can move the tip off time from tomorrow to about noon? We need another game ASAP lol

Scotty did you mean to post this on the other board?

... and please tell us why Danny Ainge, highly regarded NBA executive and long-time presence in Celtics FO was suddenly "forced out" as you put it? Because the Celtics took Stevens over Ainge. Stevens had leverage. Where'd he get it from?

I'm not directing this at you or denying that we're starved for a winner and the admin has botched the past quarter century. There are still better head coaching candidates out there for IU than Chris Beard. Just because he is most obvious (to some) does not mean anyone who opposes him is complicit in IUBB's mediocrity. It's not "holier than thou" to maintain standards that include not harboring a domestic abuser as long as he wins basketball games. No, I won't blame the administration for people fiercely advocating for Chris Beard. They can own the fact that they don't care if he drunkenly beats a hundred women as long as they get to hang a banner for their favorite basketball team. We can win with other guys. He's no leader of men, especially young men. It's not about second chances... and he's already had plenty of opportunities. DV is rarely an isolated incident. It usually escalates. Can you imagine if, god forbid, the unthinkable happened ... in Bloomington? Is it "holier than thou" to want no part of such a scenario that is statistically a non-insignificant possibility? If that's holier than thou. So be it... the rest of us will pray for ya'll.

Duke also not close. Duke's a big national brand but it's fanbase is mostly alumni (pretty small school) and casual/fair weather fans. Kansas I think also has a stake to claim. UK, KU, IU seem to be the most vocal about it online, anyway.

This fanbase needs a W on Friday so badly lol. Let's not eat our own!

You don't meet in person, in secret, to say "no" Think we can all agree no need to rehash this though

He was being sarcastic bud

We're in the same boat there brother! Think we're all searching for some reason to be optimistic at this point.

No use crying over spilled milk. We're talking about something over a decade ago at this point. And no reason to believe that if Stevens had wound up here, he wouldn't have just left when the NBA came calling anyway. So at best he'd have probably gotten things rolling, reached a similar level of success at Butler (maybe 1 FF or championship game appearance) then left. OBVIOUSLY it would be great to have done that, but it's all fantasy, so why get upset wondering about the what ifs? It's a new situation in 2024. Lot of season left. Lot of time for circumstances to change. We'll see!

When LeBron hangs it up, and all of the stars I grew up watching in all sports are officially retired, I will probably shed a tear or two lol. Side note, Carter Bryant is a 2024 signed to AZ. He knew May was on the staff at UNC but couldn't recall his name immediately. I'm sure he recognized his face as one of the many trying to recruit him, but goes to show how some recruitments just never get steam and there's no real relationship there, just old guys constantly hitting you up trying to convince you of something you don't want for yourself. Nowadays with the transfer portal and prevailing philosophy for many staffs being to set up pipeline/feeder schools (like MVA) rather than cast a nationwide-net every year, seems like relationships and "politics" are more important than ever in the bball landscape. Sorry for the unrelated tangent just had to distract myself from feeling like a dinosaur for a few mins

I saw this video featuring a bunch of 2026 recruits that made me feel INCREDIBLY old so now you all have to see it too :) On an unrelated note, pretty funny/interesting to see how closely (or not closely) some of these recruits follow the game. A few of those guys like Kemba Walker played super recently. I guess goes to show how differently some kids approach/study/figure out their game... at the end of the day, some kids are just good at the sport! And that's okay... then there are others who really love it and are committed. They are just 16 so I'll stop being a grouchy old man, I'm sure they'll grow into being students of the game Class of 2026 Players Play "Guess Who" with 2000s/2010s CBB players

The next wonder boy candidate: Arch... I mean, Dusty May The recruit the state of Indiana candidate: Shrewsburry The boring hire: Porter Moser The Tom Crean/steal from Marquette candidate: Shaka Smart The win now if we can look past previous sanctions candidate: Bruce Peal (too bad the Sampson bridge is already burnt) The pipe dream candidate: Brad Stevens I thought it would be a funny exercise to put some superlatives against the main names mentioned in this thread. Obviously a few that I did not include. Dusty May seems like the most likely of these options right now, but I'm not 100% sold yet. If anything, this goofy thought experiment makes me really want to see how things play out this season and hope we can work on a timeline for after next year, when we've had more time to evaluate candidates/see if any clear leaders emerge, etc.

Cal's turnaround season at UK looking pretty good... gotta give that guy credit for his 9 lives

Don't expect a win on Friday. Just want to see intensity from guys who look like they actually give a damn.

I love Shaheen. Love watching the way he coaches (it looks like SHU has 6 players on the court half the time). Just don't see ANY way he leaves his alma mater SHU, unless it's for the NBA some day. He just got there. I don't know that he's the kind of guy who would be motivated even by something like $10M/yr necessarily. Don't see the fit personality wise... As you said, he's also not really a proven commodity yet. He has his team playing hard though. Big improvement in year 2.

Not trying to single you/this suggestion out, but it will never happen... Dan Hurley's wife is an extreme NJ Italian (lol), he had a hard enough time convincing her to let them move to Connecticut, where her parents/siblings/cousins, etc. are less than 3 hours away. I think Danny Hurley is at UConn for the long haul. And that's bad news for the rest of CBB!

Wichita State plays at FAU 7pm on ESPN tomorrow. FAU is going to be must-see TV for me the rest of the year, I think.

I f***ing hate this kid

Cig has the textbook Coaching personality from what I've seen of him. Love the attitude/energy he exudes. I'd be ecstatic if we could replicate some of what Stoops has done in Lexington.

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Yeah. But if you don't do anything, you're just going to wallow like we did for probably too long with Crean. On the flip side, you could argue we fired Crean at the wrong time and would've been better off keeping him. Apathy will kill any program. We can save ourselves some of that turbulence by acting decisively when it becomes clear that changes need to happen. The brand of basketball we're seeing has not been good, but the past two years + his playing career definitely buys Woody another year until conversations are forced, I think. Unless we're surprised by the decisiveness of our trustees/speed at which they force those conversations, which I think is doubtful and a political landmine WRT Woody. Maybe Woody is open-minded to calling it a career and having a private, continued conversation with Dolson/May/Buckner, etc. If so, and we're able to lock down a candidate we feel great about (obviously proven easier said than done) that would be great. I feel like Woody is probably a good guy, shown some good stuff as a coach/developer of talent, and absolutely is a program legend. I don't want it to be an ugly divorce and doubt it will be. He should be embraced by the fans and I just see it getting real bad if we go into next year on the same trajectory we're currently on.

Everyone knows your opinion about Xavier Johnson bro. You've been saying it for days at every opportunity you can find. Lmao. You can have your opinion about X. I know sports talk especially on fan forums tends to be repetitive to an extent, but Lordy Lou. Disliking X is one thing (as I've said, not his biggest fan). The way some people love basking in their hatred of him is off-putting.