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Has anyone listened to Albers's podcast with Schilling? Is it worth a listen?

Maybe. I would personally take the "recruit and drop in now and then" approach and reassess in a year when you have a good idea of where you stand with kids. Keep your options open.

Yeah I edited my post while you were posting to say that this isn't really about you. It just so happens you presented an opportunity for me to vent a general frustration. I do think Watford is the type of kid we could stop by now and then and remain in the conversation though. He already knows IU, but we risk not being considered if we don't show enough interest.

I mean I disagree with the stark in-state, out-of-state distinction, and it seems so do you. Garland is out-of-state but you seem to include him with the in-state kids (I know he used to live in-state). I understand why we use these labels. We want a sense of inevitability around the state that Indiana kids will come to IU; it helps if recruits grow up thinking of IU as the logical choice. However, the labels are also so tiresome. Garland is a perfect example. He grew up in-state but now he lives out-of-state. Is he an in-state kid or an out-of-state kid? So tiresome. Watford is the same kind of kid. Out-of-state but with a connection that we should be trying to use. We ignore these possible advantages at our own peril. I think your choices listed above are self-defeating for #1. If that's how you recruit out-of-state kids you might as well not bother. Other schools get this right. Roy Williams visits Romeo enough to stay on his mind even if he's not at every game for example. Crean never found a balance. I hope Archie manages to balance between Crean's philosophy and the one you seem to state above. [EDIT: Sorry, this may be a bit strong and stawman-y. I've just been frustrated by some of the in-state/out-of-state labels and the conclusions drawn from them when it's really about (1) relationships and (2) interest and you recruit whoever you share those with (which happens to be "in-state" kids a lot because interest is natural for kids who grow up Hoosiers).]

If he told you he's not interested, then I agree. But I disagree with needing a strong affirmative expression of interest. It's a recruit we have a family connection to, not just any big time national recruit. I also think your last point assumes your feelings match his. The Plumlees didn't feel that way. Other siblings have gone to the same school as their brother(s). I'm not saying Alabama doesn't have a strong case and shouldn't be seeing him more heavily than we are just based on proximity. But I think we do a real disservice to the program if we don't even bother recruiting the 5-star brother of a recent IU player. The only resource that is at stake is time, and, if we choose to give it to Brooks 100%, then we're essentially just Alabama. We should be better than that.

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/05/02/five-star-class-of-2019-forward-trendon-watford-talks-recruiting/ New ITH article on Watford. Alabama will be hard to beat here. Unbelievable Crean let Alabama dominate his recruitment.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2017-nba-draft-indiana-takes-a-big-hit-as-another-hoosier-is-leaving-early/ "The chances of for both Blackmon and Johnson to come back are 50/50, a source told CBS Sports." Huh, I'm assuming they mean the chances that both come back is 50/50, not that each decision is 50/50.

Good luck Thomas! If I could get paid to develop my skills with no distractions versus doing it for free while balancing school, I would too.

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/05/01/2019-forward-isaiah-stewart-excited-by-indiana-offer/ Stewart sounds like really excited about getting an IU offer in this ITH article. Also, Exhibit A for why it is monumentally stupid for fans on Twitter to be trashing Bryant for making his NBA decision. These kids are friends with other prospects. They remain valuable members of the IU family even when they leave.

What part of some of the "have fun overseas" comments are reality? (not saying you said this)

Long CAM media availability. 20:46 long.

Video of CAM media meeting.

Speaking of pUKe, Rothstein says Bam Adebayo will sign with an agent and remain in the NBA draft. Outside of them getting all of the remaining elite prospects, this will be a down year for them. I'm just soooooo sad.

It's a tough choice. Stay in Ft. Worth for Romeo/Phinisee or head off for a day to VA for Brooks/Garland? I think spending the whole weekend in Ft. Worth is the right way to go. Especially because it seems Phinisee appreciates it.

I love this quote. Also from the article: Phinisee is 6'1 now and intends to make a decision in the fall.

IU makes Clif Marshall official via Twitter. Indiana Basketball‏Verified account @IndianaMBB 2m2 minutes ago Clif Marshall named #iubb Director of Athletic Performance http://bit.ly/2p0CAic

$50 for anyone who can find Crean's fake twitter account (ala FBI Dir. Comey http://gizmodo.com/this-is-almost-certainly-james-comey-s-twitter-account-1793843641).

Archie followed Keion on Twitter. Archie seems to selectively follow recruits he's interested in.

I'm starting to think its willful because that's at best incredibly misleading. They would have been released if they desired it after meeting with CAM. At least state true things. You don't have to make things up lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because there's a difference between putting yourself in a bad situation and having to handle a bad situation someone else put you in? You can try (unsuccessfully I think) to argue that Miller bears some culpability for something that could but isn't guaranteed to happen (this is so silly). But there is a difference between continually constructing your roster in such a way and having to make the best of someone else's roster construction philosophy. Your view is really simplistic and lacks nuance and understanding, either willfully or ignorantly.

I really liked it. It's great because Goodman knows Archie well, so he's able to talk about him deeper than most. Also Goodman understands IU expectations, hallelujah.

Alex Bozich‏ @insidethehall 2m2 minutes ago Hearing new #iubb coach Archie Miller is expected at New Albany tomorrow to see five-star guard Romeo Langford.

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/04/17/clifton-moore-talks-decision-to-stick-with-indiana/ Inside the Hall got some quotes from Moore this morning. I've seen the "Archie's system is like my AAU team" a couple times now. I think Justin Smith said it too.

*whispers* I've kind of felt that way about Gelon for a while. We don't have much shooting signed long term.

I have MANY Matt Roth regrets. Especially when I think about the Syracuse game.