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GnarlyTimGarl

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    Thad Matta to Butler

    In my opinion, Matta's inclusion to the IU program was weird from the start. He was mentioned as an addition to the program the very same day Woodson was hired which gave the general public a reasonable expectation that he would be an active member of the program from the public's perspective. But yet we hardly ever heard anything about his contributions to the program throughout his year at IU. Was there ever even an interview issued for public consumption? Does anyone really know what he actually did? I know he was in administration but that is very vague. And again, his hire was mentioned the SAME DAY as Woodson's hire. I doubt that was a coincidence. The more I think about it, the more I feel that the inclusion of Matta (and even Fife later on) was a tactical move by the Athletic Department to pacify some of the fanbase/media who had concerns about bringing in an older NBA guy/alum as head coach who didn't have any college coaching experience. Perhaps they thought adding the Big Ten pedigrees of Matta and Fife would lessen the skepticism of a Woodson hire. If that is true then I am left disappointed. If Woodson was/is your guy... he's your guy. Let him build the program HIS way and stay out of the way. Don't force marriages on him. If the athletic department felt that he needed specialized help like a Matta (or Fife) to make the Woodson era work then I don't believe they should have picked Woodson in the first place. But I could be way off base. I don't care. Let's just win games.
  2. A few thoughts on Payton Sparks: - He averaged 13.5 PPG and 8.5 RPG as a freshman. As the season progressed, so did his numbers. He clearly looks like a player who is "on the rise" as opposed to a potential 5th year senior who has basically maximized his ability. Do those numbers translate to the Big Ten? Maybe, maybe not. But considering that he was labeled a late-bloomer and showed significant growth in his first year of college ball it's reasonable to project that he has potential to be a pretty good college basketball player. The MAC isn't the Big Ten, but it's also leaps ahead of the MEAC or Ohio Valley. - No, he doesn't shoot three's well. But there aren't an abundance of post players who do. And there are even fewer who are available in the transfer portal at this time. If we're hanging our hopes on solving our shooting woes by bringing in a "5" who can drain 3's at a high rate we're going to be disappointed. There just aren't many out there. Some may disagree, but at 6'9-240 he is big enough to play the "5" at IU. He won't be the biggest dude on the court most nights but he has enough size where he won't be a liability unless going against aberrations like the bigs at Purdue. Most nights he'll be fine size-wise. Especially if he has a knack for rebounding. He would be our post. Our shooting will need to be upgraded at the guard/wing positions. - His addition makes the most sense should we lose TJD and Race. If either return, it makes this a bit more complicated as you're likely seeing a starting lineup containing two post players (I doubt Sparks comes here if he isn't going to start) who are unable to hit three pointers with any regularity. That means we'll likely have at least two non-shooters on the floor at all times which can severely hamper the offense. However, if TJD and Race leave, you can slot Sparks in at the "5" and Geronimo (who is a developing 3 point shooter) at the "4" which allows the offense to open up a bit more. Would I like the Sparks addition to IU? Probably, because he's still young and is on a good trajectory of improvement right now. He would have three years of eligibility left which could help solidify our post for years to come. However, if Race and/or Trayce returns it clutters up the team with yet another non-shooter. I doubt Sparks would come to sit the bench anyway.
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    IUFB Offseason/Transfer Portal News

    If there was serious bad blood between Coach McCullough and Coach Allen I would find it very hard to believe that his sons would continue to play for Allen. Then again, college football can be a weird sport...
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    Game Thread: @Maryland 10/30 - Noon - BTN

    RE: Allen's Coaching Acumen This year has been a disaster. We had a lot of momentum from two of our best years in program history and started the season ranked 17th in the nation. Fan enthusiasm was as high as it has been in a LONG time and the poor performance this year has washed so much of it away and it's very sad to see. It's clear the team was not prepared for the adversity they would face this year and the coaches bear plenty of responsibility in that. You can tell the staff is searching for answers which is never good to see. Significant changes need to be made around the program because the approach this year was massively unsuccessful. However, Tom Allen was the leader who built up all of that momentum and excitement that had our hopes high at the start of the season. He had our program in our biggest bowl games since the early 90's. He's had more success overall in the Big Ten than his FIVE predecessors. In my book, he deserves credit for that and can withstand a stinker of a season or two. He's worked up enough credit for that. IU Football is a very difficult job. Years of history has proven we'll always have an uphill battle against programs like Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State. That's not being defeatist, it's understanding the challenges IU faces. More often than not, those teams are going to be really good. And when some teams win, some teams have to lose. Twenty-five years ago this university fired Bill Mallory because we felt he ran his course and there weren't in any good days remaining in his future at IU. So be it... but we needed to make sure we would replace him with a winner. We followed him with Cam Cameron, Gerry Dinardo, Terry Hoeppner, Bill Lynch and Kevin Wilson. Those are the types of coaches IU Football attracts. NOT ONE of those coaches had any success that matched what Bill Mallory accomplished or what Tom Allen would accomplish. Wanting to part ways with Allen so quickly after having the successes we've recently experienced would be a huge gamble. We'd be praying for a shot-in-the-dark candidate to be the next shiny thing at IU. And he'd be cast aside by many if he didn't start making waves in the Big Ten by Year 2. Has Allen run out of gas at IU? Maybe. I'll admit I'm not sure we win another game this year. I thought that after the WKU game. We're that bad right now. There's no doubt that our sharp decline in play is very alarming. Allen may very well have three straight 3-win seasons and fizzle out. But Allen has shown that he can win at IU. How many other coaches (that IU could reasonably attract) can say the same? Allen has done it before. It's possible he can do it again. Do I expect it? Not necessarily. But I think he stands as good of a chance vs. most of the other coaches we would attract. If we have another couple of 3-9, 2-10 stinker of seasons then I'll agree that he has done all he can at IU. But right now? Too early to tell. I feel Allen deserves an opportunity to right the ship.
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    Game Thread: vs. Ohio State - 7:30pm - ABC

    Does anyone know of any contact information or an email address where I can communicate with someone from the athletic department or football administration where we can explain concerns about spectator experience inside Memorial Stadium? I witnessed/experienced some very inappropriate and dangerous behavior from A LOT of spectators (many of which were our guests to the East but some Hoosiers as well) that made me consider my personal safety and whether or not I want to attend many more games in the future. Did anyone else experience something similar? I have attended nearly 100 IU football games over the years and Saturday night was BY FAR the worst experience I ever had and it had nothing to do with the weather or poor play. I understand alcohol is now permitted inside the stadium but the amount of drunken, obscene and profanity-laced behavior exhibited by so many resembled something more like a middle-aged frat party instead of a sporting event. I'm all for playful banter between fans of opposing schools, but I would have been absolutely embarrassed to bring a child to that game and sit in my designated seat. My elderly father and I were recipients of unprovoked obscenities and had several intoxicated individuals almost fall on us on multiple occasions. We didn't notify the stadium attendants because there were so many people we wouldn't even know where to begin.So we just left before halftime. I'm hoping this was simply an aberration, but if this is going to be permitted in the future then I'll stay at home. If an IU Football game is more for folks aged 21 and over... please don't advertise it as a family event.
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    Game Thread: 9/11 vs. Idaho - 7:30 - BTN

    Agreed. Michael Penix isn't the All Big-Ten QB we were hoping he would be right now. He's off. It's possible he'll eventually round into form and get to that point. But right now? He's out of sync for the most part. Save for a couple of nice throws he looked unimpressive against Idaho. Was it rust? Confidence? Offensive play-calling? A combination of all three? I don't know. I was hoping Idaho would be his "get right" game that would allow him round back into shape. 11/16 for 68 yards and 2 TDs in three quarters against an FCS team wasn't exactly putting the Big Ten on notice. Am I saying bench him? Not necessarily. But I guess I would say that if you trot Penix out there the next game and we have 3-4 series of unspectacular offense then I wouldn't hesitate to give Tuttle a shot for a change of pace. That's not to say Tuttle will be much better... but it at least looks like he has more confidence than Penix right now. Being QB1 in the spring probably played a role in that. He's made a couple of nice throws in limited playing time and it seemed like the offense ran a little more smoothly with Tuttle taking the snaps. And that doesn't mean if you bench Penix midway thorugh a game that he's no longer your starter. I just wouldn't force him if it seems like he doesn't have "it" for the day. I suppose the counter-argument is that he may need more snaps to get back into the rhythm of game play but as you said his current level of QB play probably gets you a 1-4 record over the next five games. Penix clearly has a higher ceiling, but if Tuttle is playing better right now... I don't see how we don't give him PT for the betterment of the team.
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    (2022) - PF Noah Clowney to Alabama

    I will mention that The Daily Hoosier reported back in April that Rosemond trained Clowney before he took the IU assistant job. It's mentioned at the very end of the article linked below. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-hoosiers-offer-emerging-2022-south-carolina-forward-noah-clowney/ So it seems there was a prior connection between the two parties before Clowney was offered by IU. But as you mentioned... who knows how long Rosemond trained him before then and how deep that connection is? That could make a difference. I've always kinda viewed Banks and Clowney as two guys we had a really good chance of landing in the end with the Rosemond connection and I still feel that way. I have no inside information but just reading the recruiting tea leaves I'd agree with you and say we're in a good spot with this one.
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    General New Coach News

    To say that Pete Thamel is an unbiased reporter for this particular story may be a bit of a stretch. Judging from what I have seen he seemed to have a pretty good relationship with Tom Crean. He's even hosted a podcast with Crean labeling him as a "premier college hoops coach." While his assertions about the IU Administration may be correct, I am not convinced he's unbiased in this situation. https://www.si.com/college/2017/03/21/tom-crean-indiana-hoosiers-fired https://puntjohnpunt.com/2017/03/20/urban-meyer-doesnt-know-who-tom-allen-is-and-other-pete-thamel-jokes/ https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/974306747656622080 https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-yahoo-sports-college-podcast/episode/tom-creans-football-life-56154389 Just seems to me Mr. Thamel is a bit partial to Tom Crean so it doesn't surprise me he views IU in a relatively negative light.
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    General New Coach News

    RE: The Age Issue I know we'd all love to hire a younger coach who could be successful here for the next 20-25 years but I'm honestly not sure how realistic that actually is? We tried that with Archie and it didn't work. We tried it with Crean and it didn't work. We tried it with Davis and it didn't work. I just want us to get the best coach for Indiana that we can possibly get... regardless of age. Just get a good coach. I understand the hesitation for someone like Beilein and that's fair. But we've missed the tournament so much in the last 20 years that we need to make sure we can get someone in here to right the ship and put us on the right course of success once again. I'm afraid that trying to pick the next hot coaching prospect is a bit of a crap shoot and presents a high risk of experiencing the same thing we have just experienced. I know some folks are reserved about picking a guy like Beilein or Matta for health/age reasons... but we know they can coach in the Big Ten. They have had MANY years of high-level success. Even if they were only here for 5-10 years they would most likely put us on the right track for success... at least becoming a perennial tournament team again. People seem intrigued by guys like Musselman and Oats. And they may end up great coaches. But each of them have had exactly ONE year of Power 5 success. That's risky.
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    General New Coach News

    This is a very good point and needs to be remembered. IU struck gold with this line of thinking in the early 70's with Bob Knight and more recently IU Football did the same with Tom Allen. I think any successful institution would tell you that forward-thinking is essential. Past results do not get "grandfathered" into IU's success. We can look at Les Miles with Kansas Football. There are no guarantees for success. However, I believe an argument can be made that IU's attempts at hiring young "up and comers" (i.e. Crean, Archie... maybe even Davis) have only yielded mild success. We tried to project their success at IU and it just hasn't worked out the way we had hoped. The one time we attempted to hire an experienced, veteran coach with a lot of wins on their resume we saw immediate success. Had he had any desire to follow the rules and maintain any sort of control of the team from an academic and behavioral standpoint I have no doubts he'd still be the coach here today after winning many more games for the Hoosiers. A common saying I've often heard is that the best indicator of future performance is past performance. Someone like Thad Matta has had a lot of past success in Big Ten and in the state of Indiana. Is that a guarantee he'd succeed at IU? No, it's not. But I think it's more than reasonable he'd have as much chance for success at IU as another "up and comer" who has had one or two good seasons that we're trying to project into 15-20 years of success at IU. Of course, if Matta isn't healthy... he isn't healthy and the point is moot. But it seems like he has been linked to several job openings over the past few years like Alabama, Ole Miss and most recently Wichita State. That doesn't seem to indicate he's a guy who has retired from coaching high-level college basketball for the rest of his life. Sometimes I wonder if the severity of his back issues are based more on the speculation of the public as opposed to the reality of the situation. But I have no clue how he feels and I imagine there's only a few folks out there who really know that information. But this is all just my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
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    General New Coach News

    RE: Thad Matta I'll admit when I first heard his name I wasn't enthused. But then I looked at his resume... Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason Butler Bulldogs (Midwestern Collegiate Conference) (2000–2001) 2000–01 Butler 24–8 11–3 1st NCAA Division I Round of 32 Butler: 24–8 (.750) 11–3 (.786) Xavier Musketeers (Atlantic 10 Conference) (2001–2004) 2001–02 Xavier 26–6 14–2 1st NCAA Division I Round of 32 2002–03 Xavier 26–6 15–1 1st NCAA Division I Round of 32 2003–04 Xavier 26–11 10–6 T–4th NCAA Division I Elite Eight Xavier: 78–23 (.772) 39–9 (.813) Ohio State Buckeyes (Big Ten Conference) (2004–2017) 2004–05 Ohio State 20–12 8–8 6th Ineligible 2005–06 Ohio State 26–6 12–4 1st NCAA Division I Round of 32 2006–07 Ohio State 35–4 15–1 1st NCAA Division I Runner-up 2007–08 Ohio State 24–13 10–8 5th NIT Champion 2008–09 Ohio State 22–11 10–8 T–4th NCAA Division I Round of 64 2009–10 Ohio State 29–8 14–4 T–1st NCAA Division I Sweet 16 2010–11 Ohio State 34–3 16–2 1st NCAA Division I Sweet 16 2011–12 Ohio State 31–8 13–5 T–1st NCAA Division I Final Four 2012–13 Ohio State 29–8 13–5 T–2nd NCAA Division I Elite Eight 2013–14 Ohio State 25–10 10–8 5th NCAA Division I Round of 64 2014–15 Ohio State 24–11 11–7 6th NCAA Division I Round of 32 2015–16 Ohio State 21–14 11–7 7th NIT Second Round 2016–17 Ohio State 17–15 7–11 T–10th Ohio State: 337–123 (.733) 150–78 (.658) Total: 439–154 (.740) A few notes... - Ohio State's all-time leader in wins - Made the NCAA Tournament 13/16 eligible seasons. - 2 Final Fours, 2 Elite 8's, 3 Sweet 16's. - 8 conference championships, 7 conference tournament championships - In 17 years as coach, he had a losing conference record just ONE time... his last year. That looks like the pillar of sustained success and competitiveness in the Big Ten. He would instantly become one of the top coaches in the Big Ten with his resume. Players would be more apt to listen to him because he's actually been to the top of mountain... he'd know what he was talking about. I would have loved to have his results in the last 20 years. It's true he's been out of coaching for four years... but I sincerely doubt he has lost all of his connections. He's got strong connections in the Midwest and would be able to hire a strong staff. He has always been a great recruiter and raked in plenty of talent form the Midwest over the years. He's put a number of players in the NBA over the years. He's got a background in Indiana coaching at Butler. He'd be a great fit here. If he's healthy and wants to come... I think he's worth a shot. No buyout for him, right? That's a bonus. I think we'd be guaranteed some success with him. I think our administration keeps hoping to hire the next young Bob Knight... but I think hiring a proven guy like Matta would be more beneficial to this program right now. If you think Kelvin Sampson was a good coach... compare his resume to Matta's and you'll be pleased with what you see.
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    General New Coach News

    Let me say that I apologize if I contributed to needless bickering between two viewpoints. That was honestly not my intention and I regret making my original post if that's what it did. As I said before, I didn't get to watch the game. From what I read from the news outlets and heard on post-game shows it didn't seem like it was a well-played game, so I was (pleasantly) surprised to hear that Chris said Archie's coaching was masterful and as good as it gets. It doesn't exactly jive with what I've read or what I would expect against a not-so-good NW team... but I've watched enough games to know they aren't played on paper and there are a number of nuances and adjustments made in the game that never makes the headlines or the stat sheet. It sounds like there was a fair amount of that going on last night... and that's very good to hear. Anyway... sorry for any negative contribution. Serves me right for posting about a game I was unable to watch!
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    General New Coach News

    This is good to hear... and I mean that with all sincerity. It makes me feel better. I didn't get to watch the game due to prior obligations. But what I have read is that it took us 5 minutes to score a point and managed only 54 points in regulation to one of the least-effective defenses in the Big Ten while we were trailing the vast majority of the game. Our best player looks to have been held in-check most of the night. If Archie was smacking Collins on the sideline... how bad was Collins? If Archie coached a masterful game and we could barely escape with a 3-point double-OT win against the 13th place team in the Big Ten... then it probably means the talent level on our team is only on par or below Northwestern. From a logical standpoint I would think if we were more talented than Northwestern, then that fact plus masterful coaching would equal more than a 3 point victory. So then it would lead me to believe we are at a talent disadvantage... and that would be another issue. But as you said, I never sat on a bench before. And there are many people who know a lot more about the game of basketball than I do. I guess when I think of in-game coaching that is as good as it gets, I think of something more along the lines of what Matt Painter did to us earlier this year. Or at any point in time over the last five years. But I am very glad they came away with the victory and that it seems like Archie has found a groove. Hopefully that propels this team into many more wins as the season draws to a close. I do believe Archie has the potential to be a successful coach in the Big Ten.
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    General New Coach News

    I believe Dakich's assertion is correct in that IU wanted de-emphasize the basketball program so that it would not overshadow the university. There have been a number of stories, articles and books over the last 20 years that have chronicled the end of the Bob Knight era that have pointed to this assertion. I believe Myles Brand (IU's president at the time) was even quoted saying as much. Coach Knight had so much success at IU that allowed him to do pretty much whatever he desired. When IU was winning and the headlines were positive this was okay. But when the wins were fewer and the controversies were more frequent it was apparent the university didn't want such negative attention, especially over non-academic endeavors. Thus, they wanted to "de-emphasize" Indiana Basketball so that IU's academics and research would be the focus of the public when they thought about IU. How that has fared for IU is debated to this day. Of course, this was 20 years ago and most of the administrators have since moved on. Is it different now? I don't know. But I believe it was like this for sure in 2000. Dakich is most certainly brash and he clearly enjoys attention. But I have no doubts that he's correct in that IU (at least 20 years ago) chose to de-emphasize basketball and hiring big-name coaches. It's clear they wouldn't want someone who could have so much power that Bob Knight possessed. The thing is... I don't believe there's a coach out there who EVEN COULD command as much attention as Knight did. So the point is moot as far as I am concerned.
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