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The SEC will pay whatever to win, if you think what they’re paying Napier matters I don’t know what to tell you. There will be a bidding war for Cig.

I’m not trying to be hyperbolic but holy sh*t this team is special. We need to pay Cig. Washington was a good team. And we mollywhopped them, hard to believe this is real life. Go IU

When Florida offers Cig 10mm I won’t even be mad when he leaves. I hope it doesn’t happen but he deserves it. I hope we match it, but I doubt we will.

I love the loaded contract, but Cig has exceeded even the most absurd expectations. We have to restructure his contract and make him close to or the highest paid coach in the B1G yesterday.

If we don’t give him 8mm a year tomorrow I hate everything

On no planet do I think we make a FF and I think the odds of a B1G title are very slim. When I said "win a decent amount of games", I was more referring to what you said. I expect us to stay mostly around the top-25 and be a few games over .500 in the B1G and comfortably in the tournament. This roster on paper is very talented. A more succinct version of what I was getting at is I expect this season to look a lot more like year 2 versus year 3 of the Mike Woodson hobby job.

They certainly went bouncing into a ditch on the drive through Brown County last year, but I think with a down B1G and the talent assembled it would be an all-time terrible coaching job to not stay mostly ranked and win a decent amount of games this season.

Obligatory Mullins Thought-- I in no way was surprised by a kid committing to the coach of the back-to-back national champions over MW, Indiana kid or no, nothing remotely shocking about that. Him committing to IU over UCONN would have been far more shocking IMO. Throw your tinfoil hat on here: I almost am buying that some of the NIL transfer support for this season was deliberate to create a "golden parachute" coaching situation for Woody to exit gracefully. The longer this has gone on, I tend to agree with @Stuhoo the optics (as much as I would have preferred to rip the band aid and hire Dusty) would simply be awful forcing Woody out. I am hoping everyone involved just wanted to avoid that, send him off with a marginally successful season (early tourney exit, decent B1G showing), and prevent the negative press by pumping absurd money into the transfer portal. Maybe I have smoked enough Coach Cigs this football season and it has replaced the basketball angst. Could also be the indica.

The Huskies are averaging 24 points a game. I expect the IU defense to shut them down. Tayven is a very capable QB and adds a dimension with his feet I really like (good esp for UW game). We outscored Nebby 28-0 with TJ at the helm. The strength of the UW defense is passing, they are super vulnerable on the ground. So we probably would have been pounding the rock a little heavier even with Rourke in. That said, I believe they are the best defense we will have seen-- as was Nebraska, until they weren't.. I have faith in Cig and Co. to have a smart gameplan in place for TJ and a dominate performance by the defense. Blow out. Book it. IU -42 UW-7

Beautiful Cream and Crimson - 42 Ugly Red and White - 35

Lets get a bye week prediction thread for IU poll movement, being that this never happens, I am rooting for big bye week win with losses for the other two 18s, 17,16, 14, 13 and both 11s. Could be a big week for us lol.

Fightin' Hoosiers- 55 NW Nerds - 14

Late start, but moving on up. Being on IR for the first three games is hurting me.

IU-42 University of turtle-28

There hasn't been a four game stretch like this in my lifetime against anyone. What a show.

Going for it up 30 in the 4th. This staff is different. I love it.

I think -29 and 50.5 are still easy money. Charlotte is one of the worst FBS teams in the country. Only way those are not covered is if we go backups early, but that hasn't seemed to be his style. I wanted Rourke out of the game considerably before it actually happened. I think Cig is a good bet for these buy game bets based on his substitution patterns and play calling so far. Just my humble couple of pennies.

55-7 IU Charlotte is bad, I wont be shocked if its ugly early. Backups by third quarter, book it.

When do we find out the B4A matchups? Some juicy potential games there. Wife is already trying to weasel a vacation out of me with the allure of tropical basketball lol.

It is a good article but does not really shed any light that wasn't known or could be inferred. Those two were dweebs and embarrassing. Mike Woodson has an ego and really rich friends. Water is wet. My only real takeaway from this is now I really want to know how much money these two goobers were generating. With billionaires involved, anything under 7 figures probably does not move the needle for IUBB anymore. The insinuation here is they were already small potatoes and that is the real reason behind it, instead of HH being critical of Woody. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. If they toed whatever line is required and never criticized Woody I have an extremely hard time believing IUBB would start telling them we do not want or need your money. Access to the program could be quantified and adjusted. Notice that this was strictly related to IUBB. This was not the Athletic Department saying we do not want or need your money. I am not a regular listener of their show so if the criticism was over the top and unwarranted someone feel free to enlighten me, but even the article posits that much of the criticism was warranted. Whatever, time to win basketball games.

Pretty much exactly my thoughts. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we win the B1G and make a deep run. But the reality is Woody is a career .460 coach in the NBA and it isn’t a small sample size. Thats across nearly 700 games as a head coach. Good for 138th all time in winning percentage. He is 68th all time in games coached. He went 12-8 in a crappy B1G with the player who should have been NPOY and a lottery pick guard. It’s hard to be excited about him coaching the roster no matter how talented it may seem on paper.

Without serious changes to his system, 25 is the ceiling. I’m amazed sometimes that people refuse to simply believe their eyeballs and Mike Woodson’s words. He is not changing. We will see 20+ minutes a game with Ballo and Malik on the floor together standing on either block. If he didn’t stretch out the offense with KW he certainly isn’t doing it with Malik. Maybe the guard play will be so improved that the offense evolves naturally, but again, I put more credence on Mike Woodsons words. It’s not his job to get people shots. His defense is antiquated and confusing. I hope I’m wrong, but I am fairly certain we are going to see some head scratching losses and an early exit from the tourney. This job is a hobby for Mike Woodson, and he’s apparently got all the top cover he needs to keep it. It’s a sad state of affairs, but it is what it is.

I, for one, did not have the PR miracle and Scottie Scheffler; criminal mastermind on my summer of ‘24 bingo card. What a ride.

Figured after seeing the article and listening to the podcast it was time to dust off the old BTB machine. Hope everyone is having a splendid summer. Pleasantries out of the way, I have a couple thoughts: 1. Fire Mike Woodson. 2. HH is a terrible podcast and I care not for them losing their access. 3. Nothing Eric portrayed from Woody hasn't been said in this thread either by conjecture, or straight from Woody’s mouth. This is who he is, it’s why he’s Mike Woodson, former NBA head coach. It is sad to know that all the hypothesizing we did in March that Dolson might actually be a neutered figurehead when it comes to basketball, but it is not at all surprising. Anywho, who is excited for Woody to experiment with Ballo and MR on the floor at the same time? That was some exciting news coming out of Hubers. Been wanting to test out using two bigs for a while.

Me to my brain: *Do not say Goode News, do not say Goode News.* Brain: THIS IS GOODE NEWS