NashvilleHoosier

One name I never heard floated at all from anyone was Josh Heupel. And a quick scroll through the official welcome announcement tells me that his name was nowhere near any of the fanbase's wishlist. Who knows if it will work out, but if you need a solid laugh, go check the comments. That place is a mess.

I look forward to reading the same thing over and over again, and then again, and then over and over again a few more times, from the same people for another offseason and all of next season. Also excited about anyone who accepts the statement you make, understands there is nothing that will happen to change it, and chooses to try to focus on anything other than constant negativity as people who just don't get it. Long live the pumpers vs. the dumpers.

Interesting contract notes. We're paying him the same amount that Wommack is getting paid for this new gig at South Alabama. I'm sure the opportunity to be a head coach was going to win out, but I wonder if we had any discussions with Wommack about paying him....$800K? $900K? to stick around? If we were willing to pay a new DC $700K, were we willing to offer Wommack more to have at least another year of continuity knowing how much we had returning on D? This is not a knock on the new DC. He seems like a great hire. Just interesting.

Haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere but my apologies if it has. We moved from #55 to #40 in the NET rankings with that win last night. Resume looks significantly different being 1-4 in Quad 1 (yeah, still not great) with the 1 being a Quad 1A win vs. 0-5 in quad 1. Combined 5-6 record in quads 1/2. Stanford and Providence hovering not too far below the quad 1 line.

Yeah, I got ya. I think we just have some wires crossed here. I have the same app you're showing. I have it on my phone, ipad, apple TV, etc. DirecTV is a supported provider. I stream live sports through that same app all the time. For some reason, I do not see any option to access replays on that same fox sports app. Funny part is I don't even need that. I DVR'd the game. I was just trying to contribute to the conversation about where to find the replay....and have obviously done very poorly in my attempt.

I have the fox sports app. I have the fox sports go app as well, only b/c I just haven't deleted it yet. We have DirecTV that includes all of the Fox sports channels. I often stream live events on the fox sports app, but I can't find any option for replays. Very weird. And I specifically asked that question on a live support chat and they told me to use the Fox NOW app. This is making me feel even more like a luddite.

Dang....I just searched everywhere on the Fox sports app, Fox sports Go app, foxsports.com, and didn't find any replay options anywhere. That got me curious enough to chat with a rep and Chelsea tells me that replays of sports shown on fox sports channels will not be available through the fox sports apps or foxsports.com but instead will be available on the Fox NOW app and Fox.com. That really makes a lot of sense, Chelsea. I don't feel like having another app on my phone, but I did confirm it's available (w/ TV subscription) on Fox.com.

Last I checked Fox Sports replay streaming options for big ten games was garbage. I believe you have to subscribe to BTN+ to stream a replay.

C'mon Chris you can't just drop this bomb in a game thread after a win like that and run off!! Don't play with our hearts!!

To be honest, he was well overdue to miss a bunch of 3s against us, right? Water finding it’s level and all that.

Seriously, all of them. Even the limited minutes Lander played I thought he played better defensively than he has all season. Had a nice little break up of a back door pass. Race scored 1 point but fought his tail off defensively. Hunter only had 2 points but it felt like he played with more energy and intent that I’ve bet seen. All of them.

All of them.

Yeah for sure. I mean.... I’m literally shocked. I’m not making up the fact that they both picked up their 4th before the under 12 TO in the 2nd half right? And that we were losing by 9 at that point? Just a masterful job of clock management as you said.

Gutsiest win of the AM era? I haven’t read the thread at all and I’m sure it’s been covered but FREE THROWS!! We could have won by 17...20? Huge props to the aggressive and ready to go Rob, Geronimo ready to fill some huge minutes, and just a team full of guys finally ready to fight their ***** off.

Shut this thread down. Just like we’ve been telling you fools. Archie is our guy, just be patient b/c we will knock off a top 5 team on the road this season. Exactly what we’ve been saying all along. #pumper

I'm sure he did. And it seems inconceivable that he didn't do that at UK as well, especially with world wide wes around. I'm intentionally leaving those things (including his crowning achievements at both previous stops being vacated) out of the argument for why we should or should not hire him. I'm also leaving out the fact that I don't believe there is a single chance in hell he would leave UK and come to IU.

Another point about Cal....It's fair to look at how he did before UK where he wasn't relying on one and done's. Let's leave the vacated seasons out of the discussion for a minute. My counterargument is first to throw what he did at UMass in the garbage. If we're talking about what someone did in the 80s and 90s, not interested. So let's look at Memphis. Since an argument will be made that he proved he can win without relying on one and done's at Memphis, and let's assume he goes back to his Memphis ways of running a program, here's what that looks like: NIT, NIT, NCAA first round, NCAA 2nd round, NIT.....then his real success from year 6 on. 6 years to build that. This isn't advocating for keeping Archie for 6 years. Just pointing out that if you think he can win in other ways, the example we have of that was building a program up for 6 years before he actually did win in another way.

Fair enough, but I don't really believe we are in desperation mode as a program. Desperation mode was after we fired Sampson and had scraps left of a roster to move forward with and sanctions to work through. We haven't won at the level we want to and expect to for a long time. But everything else is there for us to do besides the on court success led by the right person roaming the sidelines. I agree that we need a home run hire, and in order to hit a home run you have to swing for the fences. I just think hiring Cal is swinging for the fences with your eyes closed. It is indeed possible that you'll make contact and hit that home run. I'm not willing to bet on it though.

For me it has more to do with the fact that Cal's way of doing is far from the only proven way to have a successful program. He's built UK as it is largely on the one and done player, while occasionally sprinkling in some players that stick around 2 years. It's produced one championship and several tournament runs we can surely be jealous of. But it's also produced this year. He may be a decent coach, but he's also been able to take advantage of simply having really really good players that he can't screw it up. That's not the only way to go about it. And in my opinion that method is becoming more and more of a gamble with there being plenty of opportunities for players to play overseas and get paid, and the G-league starting to take one and dones out of the mix. On top of that, UK fans have to be okay with massive roster turnover every year. That fits UK better b/c they don't have a solid funnel of high level recruits coming from their own state every year. Indiana does, and can win by recruiting right at home (though of course we need to recruit nationally as well). I like seeing guys like Yogi, Hulls, Franklin, etc. stick around several years and even Cody and Trayce if they're only here a couple. I wouldn't want to wonder from year to year who is even going to be on the roster, b/c again, my main point is that it's not the only proven way to do it and his method is becoming more and more of a gamble every season. Now, add in one big point you made....he may only be around 5-6 years. You're willing to take that gamble on a guy who may very well be on the downside of his career, with no guarantee at all that he can regain the type of success he had at UK, may take a few years to build that if does regain that success, knowing he won't even be around that long? The possibility that he could come in and in 5 or 6 years bring us a couple of final fours and another banner I would bet my mortgage is equally or less likely than he comes in and stinks up the place trying to implement a one and done to the NBA pipeline, gets us to 1 sweet sixteen and a couple tournaments and alienating the recruiting relationships in the state along the way. Nah. No way. It's a desperation, hail mary, full court heave of a hire. Sure, there is a chance that full court heave goes in. The slam dunks may not be available or we may overthrow the lob when they aren't looking. That doesn't mean we should attempt a full court heave when we can run some offense and look for a good shot. Yes, I took that analogy/pun right up the finish line, then blew past it and ran another lap with it.

I remember so arrogantly telling some of my Purdue fan friends that I hope they enjoyed a couple sweet 16s while we were down b/c their window was officially over. I feel so sad. How naive I was.

Father of 1 as well. Do the rest of the world a favor and please make sure you are never in any position whatsoever to advocate for/mentor/coach/teach/etc. women for the entirety of your existence. This comment alone makes you are wholly unfit to do so. Now translate that statement into something that would get me banned from this board....that’s what I really mean.

It was an absolute crime to have the shooters that team did and not design something to effectively attack a zone you 100% knew was coming. He committed 42 high crimes.

Agreed...I included Nebraska as a game that could have gone the other way, but considering the margin of victory, it is the outlier.

Oh yeah. I’m fully aware we are as close to being 6-8 as we are to being 10-4.

Right. And logically, a tourney team every year who makes it to the sweet 16 every 3rd will consistently be a top 25 team, many times a top 10 team, and would be recruiting well. Knowing where we are now....holy cow if we had that for the last 13 years and we were on here complaining (I’m putting myself squarely in the camp who would have serious questions)...I’d take that blissful ignorance every day of the week right now.