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Completely agree Aloha. And that applies not just to Self; Coach K, Roy, Sean Miller, Calipari and many many many many others.

"Why else would you" will not be enough to get the coaches in trouble in my opinion. If I was Self appearing before the NCCA I would say: "I knew that Adidas representatives had contacted various recruits and told them about how KU had the greatest fan base, facilities, coaching staff, family atmosphere, and player development. When one of those recruits committed I thanked all who informed that recruit about the positive qualities of our program. I NEVER knew there was any inappropriate financial inducement. Never." In my opinion, coaches like Kenny Johnson (with testimony that he paid the recruit directly) have a big problem. Louisville, which was already on double-secret probation, showed a complete lack of institutional control and has a mega-mega problem. Kansas and Self? Not too big of a problem. That doesn't make KU innocent (not at all), it just makes the case against them difficult to sustain.

The point of my post is not to assess the staff's relative confidence by their words or what insiders are hearing. It's the staff's actions; the apparent lack of their pursuit of another big, that draws me to the conclusion that they fully expect a high-level big to commit.

'Xactly. I don't see anyone on here speculating that Archie is a fool. Archie will not be bringing a one player (Franklin) class to IU in 2019. Archie seems to have pulled back from many players, and has not appeared to get involved with any new 100-250 ranked players. To me that is a clear sign, though not a guarantee, that the IU staff is quite confident.

Vote Juwan! Vote early, vote often: https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1051884232098770944

Vote Juwan! Vote early, vote often: https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1051884232098770944

That’s democracy; the freedom to speak without government retribution. Bob Knight, Kanye, Vic, DeNiro... whoever! A famous person does not “mysteriously disappear” for having a public opinion. With headlines from Russia and Saudi of exactly that happening, I’m grateful that no one is restricted from doing so (as long as it’s not the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater.) The only retribution is the risk of a lesser (or greater) public opinion of the person opening their mouth. And that’s fair too.

Yup....handled.

There were plenty of empty seats today, and IU practically gives football seats away.

Let’s all cool it with politics. Lord knows I have my political opinions; I don’t put em on this board. FWIW; I can’t imagine how anyone, especially an IU fan, wouldn’t love Victor Oladipo. It is absolutely mind blowing to read a post from an IU fan who “used to like” VO. The man is a role model both on and off the court in so so many ways.

Made final cut; Troy will be on the Pelicans opening night roster.

Sigh.

Who’s coming to Big Blue Madness? UK has another star-studded guest list. BY BEN ROBERTS broberts@herald-leader.com IMG Academy (Fla.) power forward Brandon Huntley-Hatfield (No. 20 in the Rivals.com rankings) and Indiana point guard Khristian Lander (No. 14 in the 247Sports rankings) were also invited but will not be able to attend Madness.

Who’s coming to Big Blue Madness? UK has another star-studded guest list. BY BEN ROBERTS broberts@herald-leader.com ...Five-star forward Matthew Hurt was rumored this fall to be visiting for Big Blue Madness, but he will not be in town this weekend and said at last week’s USA Basketball camp that he plans to take most of his visits during the season.

Transcript of their ChikFilA conversation: Old Lady: "Yo yo, Victor O; thaz some feathery-azz sweats." Vic: "Thank you ma'am."

Basketball recruits, wins and championships. That’s what.

Completely fair. I feel as though (as commonly happens) to a certain extent in this thread the divergent opinions are arguing different points. I'm guessing all can agree that going to the police would be the first step of almost all. But, I can tell you with certainty that there is often a significant, unavoidable time period between an allegation to the police and a possible arrest. For instance, this can happen while records are being requested, lawyers get court delays, and witnesses who may be critical are located and interviewed,; sometimes those witnesses (even those who have no legal exposure) will only speak with the police with their attorney present, and that attorney is in the midst of a four week unrelated jury trial. In the mean time, the school can take action to ameliorate the situation. A school does not have a long list of remedies, but if they get a credible allegation and do nothing while the police investigate, they've got a big problem if the accused strikes again.

No one should be “automatically believing” an accuser or the accused. i think the extremes of this discussion need to remember that there is no way to engineer a perfect system - only to try to improve and monitor the system as society and as the law constantly evolves. Our forefathers did not pledge to “...form a perfect union...”; instead, they pledged to “form a more perfect union...”, one that moves that way as the country changes.

In my experience? Not really. The police (good lord that's a broad generalized descriptor) all but always investigate credible sexual assault/rape allegations. Decline to prosecute? There has to be an expectation on the part of the District Attorney/State Attorney's office that a statutory violation can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to a unanimous jury. And that produces a bunch of declinations; many of them appropriate declinations. Doesn't mean the nefarious activity didn't happen; just that the prosecutor didn't think a jury would convict.

My take is that: Every situation is different. The school should involve law enforcement as early as possible. The attorneys representing the school want to learn as much as humanly possible, but not at the expense of creating conflicting witness statements or interfering with law enforcement. Because of those criteria, the school's attorneys usually (and IMO, appropriately) try to create a 'time-out bubble' for the accused while the facts sort out. These are not opinions formed at IU law school; they are formed from real world experience with these types of issues. By the way...Of the criteria I cited, the first bullet point is by far the most important to remember.

It's tenuous, at best :) If Fitzner is a 20+ minute guy at the stretch ofur spot this year, he may be the best comparable to the role Hurt would fill.

In an administrative matter, the burden can often be on the accused! (i.e.; a fired employee at will) In a civil matter the accuser is the purported victim and has the burden, but the burden is only "preponderance of the evidence" In a criminal matter, the burden is on the government (that's the accuser of a crime). MUCH higher deprivation of freedom/level of punishment, and a MUCH higher burden of proof; "beyond a reasonable doubt." IU Law School in the house, baybeeee!!!

Fitzner will never be a plus defender. Offensive end? He’s a great addition.

So true - and I think C Edwards is really good! Purdoo finished third in the conference last year with Haas, Vincent Edwards, Mathias, PJ Thompson, AND Carsen Edwards. They added one nice grad transfer, lost 4/5 of their starting lineup, and will be markedly better? Ahhhh...no.