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    BottomLine reacted to cappymo14 in IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN   
    After watching the game again this morning, I think I’ll put some things out there. The consensus is that though this was a win, it’s an embarrassment. Ugly-win. Maybe. Why though? Because Nebraska was easily handled and badly out scored in previous games? One thing though, nobody ever mentioned who played really, really well. Better than I’d seen all year. Nebraska did. I believe what we saw was a team that everyone expected to lay down, decided not too. They played excellent basketball. They made tough shots, played together, found a weakness and exploited it as long as they could. We should have won comfortably on paper. Wasn’t played on paper though. We saw a team that gave their best possible effort and still came up short. Caught them on a bad night is what I’m saying.
    Indiana turns it over and has glaring deficiencies on the defensive end of the floor. I believe the defensive woes to be systematic in nature and fixable if the coaching staff adjusts. It wasn’t an embarrassment though. Not at all. They will have learned something about their defense and how teams plan to attack. A lot of players had good games on both ends. Wasn’t a one man show. That’s a good thing. Deron Davis had good minutes, Joe Brunk did good things as well. Justin Smith, Al, Hunter. All positive. Rob and Green too. All the guys had a positive column that was taller than the negative. Not even ugly really. A team came in to AH and played surprisingly tough, and we matched every run they had. On to the next one.


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    BottomLine got a reaction from mamasa in IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN   
    Is the sky falling or something?  Really enjoyed the game last night and let's give some credit to Fred Hoiberg for putting together an excellent game plan that his team followed.  I wouldn't expect less from Hoiberg.  He is an excellent coach.  On offense they spread IU out and made us play one-on-one defense.  Five out and none in means that our bigs have to come outside and guard on the perimeter and we got exposed.  In addition it takes away our help defense since it pulls players back inside and leaves open shooters on the outside.  The move took Brunk and Davis out of the game and negated one of our biggest advantages.  Nebraska also ran some clear-outs where we were forced to play one-on-one.  Folks that is how you beat a pack line defense.  They forced IU to defend the outside instead of the inside.  That is how you turn a plus (our size) into a negative and is the product of good coaching.
    On defense, Nebraska tried to take away our inside game by giving us all the outside shots was could want and more.  We choked on that diet until the second half when we started to go inside and Jackson-Davis and Smith started to take over.  Simply put, Nebraska had too little size and too many fouls to stop us inside.  That is why I never thought the game was in doubt.  Credit MIller for correcting our offense on the fly.
    Credit Fred Hoiberg for an excellent job of coaching last night.  He turned the game into a chess match and made it close as a result.  Unfortunately for Nebraska they did not have enough pieces to win the game, but they certainly game us a game that we will remember.
    The Big 10 is full of good coaches and they all look at film.  last year it didn't take them long to figure out that Indiana had Langford and Morgan and not much else.  Game plan to stop those two and you stop IU.  You can bet that those coaches will now be looking at film of last night's game and the Wisconsin game for how to stop the Hoosiers.  This is where MIller earns those big bucks that we are paying him.  This is his team that he has assembled and I'm sure he is aware of exactly what happened last night.  The weight now falls on his shoulders to find a way to fix the problems.  I'm not sure exactly what that may be (They aren't paying me those big bucks to fix anything).  There has to be a solution.  We aren't just going to throw the season away.  My fear is that there won't be a solution coming because Coach Miller can be pretty inflexible at times.  My feeling is that if something isn't working, fix it!   I like Coach MIller and I like the team he has assembled.  I desperately want the Hoosier to do well.  But, if you are going to evaluate the job Coach Miller has done at IU, this is where you begin.  Don't give me excuses.  I'm only interested in results.  I hope we can find a way.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from mamasa in IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN   
    Is the sky falling or something?  Really enjoyed the game last night and let's give some credit to Fred Hoiberg for putting together an excellent game plan that his team followed.  I wouldn't expect less from Hoiberg.  He is an excellent coach.  On offense they spread IU out and made us play one-on-one defense.  Five out and none in means that our bigs have to come outside and guard on the perimeter and we got exposed.  In addition it takes away our help defense since it pulls players back inside and leaves open shooters on the outside.  The move took Brunk and Davis out of the game and negated one of our biggest advantages.  Nebraska also ran some clear-outs where we were forced to play one-on-one.  Folks that is how you beat a pack line defense.  They forced IU to defend the outside instead of the inside.  That is how you turn a plus (our size) into a negative and is the product of good coaching.
    On defense, Nebraska tried to take away our inside game by giving us all the outside shots was could want and more.  We choked on that diet until the second half when we started to go inside and Jackson-Davis and Smith started to take over.  Simply put, Nebraska had too little size and too many fouls to stop us inside.  That is why I never thought the game was in doubt.  Credit MIller for correcting our offense on the fly.
    Credit Fred Hoiberg for an excellent job of coaching last night.  He turned the game into a chess match and made it close as a result.  Unfortunately for Nebraska they did not have enough pieces to win the game, but they certainly game us a game that we will remember.
    The Big 10 is full of good coaches and they all look at film.  last year it didn't take them long to figure out that Indiana had Langford and Morgan and not much else.  Game plan to stop those two and you stop IU.  You can bet that those coaches will now be looking at film of last night's game and the Wisconsin game for how to stop the Hoosiers.  This is where MIller earns those big bucks that we are paying him.  This is his team that he has assembled and I'm sure he is aware of exactly what happened last night.  The weight now falls on his shoulders to find a way to fix the problems.  I'm not sure exactly what that may be (They aren't paying me those big bucks to fix anything).  There has to be a solution.  We aren't just going to throw the season away.  My fear is that there won't be a solution coming because Coach Miller can be pretty inflexible at times.  My feeling is that if something isn't working, fix it!   I like Coach MIller and I like the team he has assembled.  I desperately want the Hoosier to do well.  But, if you are going to evaluate the job Coach Miller has done at IU, this is where you begin.  Don't give me excuses.  I'm only interested in results.  I hope we can find a way.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from mamasa in IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN   
    Is the sky falling or something?  Really enjoyed the game last night and let's give some credit to Fred Hoiberg for putting together an excellent game plan that his team followed.  I wouldn't expect less from Hoiberg.  He is an excellent coach.  On offense they spread IU out and made us play one-on-one defense.  Five out and none in means that our bigs have to come outside and guard on the perimeter and we got exposed.  In addition it takes away our help defense since it pulls players back inside and leaves open shooters on the outside.  The move took Brunk and Davis out of the game and negated one of our biggest advantages.  Nebraska also ran some clear-outs where we were forced to play one-on-one.  Folks that is how you beat a pack line defense.  They forced IU to defend the outside instead of the inside.  That is how you turn a plus (our size) into a negative and is the product of good coaching.
    On defense, Nebraska tried to take away our inside game by giving us all the outside shots was could want and more.  We choked on that diet until the second half when we started to go inside and Jackson-Davis and Smith started to take over.  Simply put, Nebraska had too little size and too many fouls to stop us inside.  That is why I never thought the game was in doubt.  Credit MIller for correcting our offense on the fly.
    Credit Fred Hoiberg for an excellent job of coaching last night.  He turned the game into a chess match and made it close as a result.  Unfortunately for Nebraska they did not have enough pieces to win the game, but they certainly game us a game that we will remember.
    The Big 10 is full of good coaches and they all look at film.  last year it didn't take them long to figure out that Indiana had Langford and Morgan and not much else.  Game plan to stop those two and you stop IU.  You can bet that those coaches will now be looking at film of last night's game and the Wisconsin game for how to stop the Hoosiers.  This is where MIller earns those big bucks that we are paying him.  This is his team that he has assembled and I'm sure he is aware of exactly what happened last night.  The weight now falls on his shoulders to find a way to fix the problems.  I'm not sure exactly what that may be (They aren't paying me those big bucks to fix anything).  There has to be a solution.  We aren't just going to throw the season away.  My fear is that there won't be a solution coming because Coach Miller can be pretty inflexible at times.  My feeling is that if something isn't working, fix it!   I like Coach MIller and I like the team he has assembled.  I desperately want the Hoosier to do well.  But, if you are going to evaluate the job Coach Miller has done at IU, this is where you begin.  Don't give me excuses.  I'm only interested in results.  I hope we can find a way.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from mamasa in IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN   
    Is the sky falling or something?  Really enjoyed the game last night and let's give some credit to Fred Hoiberg for putting together an excellent game plan that his team followed.  I wouldn't expect less from Hoiberg.  He is an excellent coach.  On offense they spread IU out and made us play one-on-one defense.  Five out and none in means that our bigs have to come outside and guard on the perimeter and we got exposed.  In addition it takes away our help defense since it pulls players back inside and leaves open shooters on the outside.  The move took Brunk and Davis out of the game and negated one of our biggest advantages.  Nebraska also ran some clear-outs where we were forced to play one-on-one.  Folks that is how you beat a pack line defense.  They forced IU to defend the outside instead of the inside.  That is how you turn a plus (our size) into a negative and is the product of good coaching.
    On defense, Nebraska tried to take away our inside game by giving us all the outside shots was could want and more.  We choked on that diet until the second half when we started to go inside and Jackson-Davis and Smith started to take over.  Simply put, Nebraska had too little size and too many fouls to stop us inside.  That is why I never thought the game was in doubt.  Credit MIller for correcting our offense on the fly.
    Credit Fred Hoiberg for an excellent job of coaching last night.  He turned the game into a chess match and made it close as a result.  Unfortunately for Nebraska they did not have enough pieces to win the game, but they certainly game us a game that we will remember.
    The Big 10 is full of good coaches and they all look at film.  last year it didn't take them long to figure out that Indiana had Langford and Morgan and not much else.  Game plan to stop those two and you stop IU.  You can bet that those coaches will now be looking at film of last night's game and the Wisconsin game for how to stop the Hoosiers.  This is where MIller earns those big bucks that we are paying him.  This is his team that he has assembled and I'm sure he is aware of exactly what happened last night.  The weight now falls on his shoulders to find a way to fix the problems.  I'm not sure exactly what that may be (They aren't paying me those big bucks to fix anything).  There has to be a solution.  We aren't just going to throw the season away.  My fear is that there won't be a solution coming because Coach Miller can be pretty inflexible at times.  My feeling is that if something isn't working, fix it!   I like Coach MIller and I like the team he has assembled.  I desperately want the Hoosier to do well.  But, if you are going to evaluate the job Coach Miller has done at IU, this is where you begin.  Don't give me excuses.  I'm only interested in results.  I hope we can find a way.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Alford Bailey in College Bball Thread   
    Wisconsin just reverted to form.  The caught us flat footed in Madison but they aren't a very good team this year.
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Napleshoosier in IUBB vs UConn Game Thread 12/10 @ 9:00 pm ESPN   
    Wisconsin just reverted to form and lost to Rutgers.
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Alford Bailey in College Bball Thread   
    Wisconsin just reverted to form.  The caught us flat footed in Madison but they aren't a very good team this year.
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from thebigweave in IUBB vs UConn Game Thread 12/10 @ 9:00 pm ESPN   
    Was wondering at the time why Jackson-Davis took a seat for so long in the second half.  I would have thought he would be on the floor more.  Then this morning it hit me.  IU is struggling through a scoring drought in the second half and points are really hard to find.  Then IU puts the ball up and Jackson-Davis get called for offensive goal tending on a ball that was already inside the hoop and on the way down, thus taking two points off the board.  It was an incredible bone headed play.  Moments later Jackson-Davis is on the pine.  Think Miller might have been sending a message?   I don't care who you are, get your head in the game kid!  Anyone else notice this?
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Alford Bailey in College Bball Thread   
    Wisconsin just reverted to form.  The caught us flat footed in Madison but they aren't a very good team this year.
     
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    BottomLine reacted to Str8Hoosiers in Prediction League (Game 10 - UCONN 12/10/19)   
    Just an FYI for future reference. It does lock at SCHEDULED Tip Time (usually give a couple extra minutes)
    I schedule it ahead of time in case I am not available to lock it on time.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Prediction League (Game 11 - Nebraska 12/13/19)   
    I must be overthinking things.  Think I'll try putting in my guess early instead of late and see if it makes a difference.
    Good points for Nebraska.  We have a common opponent, S Dakota St.  We won by 14 (64-50).  Nebraska won by 17 (90-73).  Nebraska is shooting the 3 at a 32.7% clip.
    Now for the Nebraska bad stuff.  We are averaging 7 points more per game and IU is 12.5 points per game better on defense.  Nebraska is projected to be 0-20 in the Big10 this year.  They are not very good at guarding the 3-point line and gave up 13 3s to Creighton, 11 to George Mason, and 9 to Southern.  They don't rebound well.  They are 0-1 against Q1 competition and 0-1 against Q2, and they have lost twice to Q4 teams.  In short they look worse than Wisconsin, but not by much.
    The Hoosier offense has stalled in the last two games and this would be a good place to get back on track, especially with Phinisee expected to see more time.  Plus we should welcome playing on our home court again.
    Hoosiers 85 - Cornhuskers 68
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    BottomLine got a reaction from thebigweave in Prediction League (Game 10 - UCONN 12/10/19)   
    I stuck my neck out on the Wisconsin game and got it chopped.  The Badgers beat us like an old rug.  I swore that the Wisconsin jinx in Madison was ready to end and our boys had some mental toughness.  We didn't.  Beat on the board by a smaller team!  Only forces 4 turnovers!  Allowed Wisconsin to look like the best shooting team in the country!  Brother, what a mess!
    Now where do I go?  What you have done in the past is usually the best indicator of what you are going to do in the present, at least until it doesn't.  See Wisconsin.  Now where are our boy going to be mentally?  Do we fight back or roll over and play dead?  When will Phinisee finally reappear?  Plenty of big questions to answer against Connecticut, which on paper is a tougher team that Wisconsin.
    Connecticut shoots the 3-ball well and in volume and on paper they have a better 3-point defense than IU.  They rebound well and force turnovers.  What a recipe for disaster, if our A team doesn't show up with some grit and determination we can be run out of the gym on national TV.
    I have NO confidence in this game.  There are just too many variables.  Vegas has it with an o/u of 142 and an implied final score of 72.5 to 70.  I've almost talked myself into picking against the Hoosiers, but I'll ride with them one more time before I start picking against them, but I can't see going out on a limb.
    Feeling conservative about this game.
    IU 75  Connecticut 70
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Prediction League (Game 9 - @ Wisconsin 12/7/19)   
    Wisconsin!  I HATE Wisconsin.  The thing to remember is that what happened 20-15-10 or 5 years ago has no impact on the game being played on Saturday.  Really?  Really!  The physical aspect of games in the past have no impact on the game played at present.  On the other hand the mental aspect can have an impact.  What is this year's team thinking.  Have we been snake-bit so often in Madison that when crunch time comes we will expect it to happen again?  I'm thinking not, but we will just have to see.  I'm thinking that this team can be pretty tough minded.
    On paper this is IU's game to lose despite the fact that Vegas has it as pick 'em with an o/u of 128.5.  I'm not buying that.  I know Wisky has a reputation for playing defense but 128.5 is way too low.  IU has been over in 6 of 8 games with much higher o/us than that.  Does Wisconsin have the firepower to keep up in a much higher scoring game?  I don't think so.  Their offensive average for the year is 66.5.  In their three games with major competition they are 64.7.  That fits in nicely with Indiana's defensive average of 63.6.  The simple fact is that Wisconsin is a 60 point range team and needs to hold Indiana to the lower 60's or 50's to win.  They aren't good enough to do that.  Florida State, which probably plays much tougher defense than this group from Wisconsin, held IU to 80.  Meanwhile North Carolina State pounded on Wisconsin.  Which is the tougher team NC State or Fla St?  I'm thinking Fla St.  On the other hand, if the referees swallow their whistles that could be a problem.  Florida States problem was that they couldn't guard without fouling.  But everyone has had that problem with IU this year.
    Wisconsin's effective field goal percentage in their last three games has been 41.0, 35.8, 42.0.  Their turnover rates in their last three have been 23.3, 22.4, and 15.4.  Those numbers can get you beat by even a good mid-major.  Is home cooking going to fix that?  Where are the points going to come from?
    Vegas has this at 128.5 o/u and an implied score of 64.5 to 64.
    Hard to picture Wisconsin scoring more points than Florida State.  So I'll shave 4 points to get Wisconsin's score.  On the other hand I don't think Wisconsin can apply as much pressure as Florida State, so I'll take the same score for the Hoosiers just to be a bit conservative.  And there you go.  How did you come up with your numbers?
    IU - 80     Wisconsin- 60      Let's break the losing streak in a BIG way.  Go Hoosiers.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Prediction League (Game 9 - @ Wisconsin 12/7/19)   
    Wisconsin!  I HATE Wisconsin.  The thing to remember is that what happened 20-15-10 or 5 years ago has no impact on the game being played on Saturday.  Really?  Really!  The physical aspect of games in the past have no impact on the game played at present.  On the other hand the mental aspect can have an impact.  What is this year's team thinking.  Have we been snake-bit so often in Madison that when crunch time comes we will expect it to happen again?  I'm thinking not, but we will just have to see.  I'm thinking that this team can be pretty tough minded.
    On paper this is IU's game to lose despite the fact that Vegas has it as pick 'em with an o/u of 128.5.  I'm not buying that.  I know Wisky has a reputation for playing defense but 128.5 is way too low.  IU has been over in 6 of 8 games with much higher o/us than that.  Does Wisconsin have the firepower to keep up in a much higher scoring game?  I don't think so.  Their offensive average for the year is 66.5.  In their three games with major competition they are 64.7.  That fits in nicely with Indiana's defensive average of 63.6.  The simple fact is that Wisconsin is a 60 point range team and needs to hold Indiana to the lower 60's or 50's to win.  They aren't good enough to do that.  Florida State, which probably plays much tougher defense than this group from Wisconsin, held IU to 80.  Meanwhile North Carolina State pounded on Wisconsin.  Which is the tougher team NC State or Fla St?  I'm thinking Fla St.  On the other hand, if the referees swallow their whistles that could be a problem.  Florida States problem was that they couldn't guard without fouling.  But everyone has had that problem with IU this year.
    Wisconsin's effective field goal percentage in their last three games has been 41.0, 35.8, 42.0.  Their turnover rates in their last three have been 23.3, 22.4, and 15.4.  Those numbers can get you beat by even a good mid-major.  Is home cooking going to fix that?  Where are the points going to come from?
    Vegas has this at 128.5 o/u and an implied score of 64.5 to 64.
    Hard to picture Wisconsin scoring more points than Florida State.  So I'll shave 4 points to get Wisconsin's score.  On the other hand I don't think Wisconsin can apply as much pressure as Florida State, so I'll take the same score for the Hoosiers just to be a bit conservative.  And there you go.  How did you come up with your numbers?
    IU - 80     Wisconsin- 60      Let's break the losing streak in a BIG way.  Go Hoosiers.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Prediction League (Game 9 - @ Wisconsin 12/7/19)   
    Wisconsin!  I HATE Wisconsin.  The thing to remember is that what happened 20-15-10 or 5 years ago has no impact on the game being played on Saturday.  Really?  Really!  The physical aspect of games in the past have no impact on the game played at present.  On the other hand the mental aspect can have an impact.  What is this year's team thinking.  Have we been snake-bit so often in Madison that when crunch time comes we will expect it to happen again?  I'm thinking not, but we will just have to see.  I'm thinking that this team can be pretty tough minded.
    On paper this is IU's game to lose despite the fact that Vegas has it as pick 'em with an o/u of 128.5.  I'm not buying that.  I know Wisky has a reputation for playing defense but 128.5 is way too low.  IU has been over in 6 of 8 games with much higher o/us than that.  Does Wisconsin have the firepower to keep up in a much higher scoring game?  I don't think so.  Their offensive average for the year is 66.5.  In their three games with major competition they are 64.7.  That fits in nicely with Indiana's defensive average of 63.6.  The simple fact is that Wisconsin is a 60 point range team and needs to hold Indiana to the lower 60's or 50's to win.  They aren't good enough to do that.  Florida State, which probably plays much tougher defense than this group from Wisconsin, held IU to 80.  Meanwhile North Carolina State pounded on Wisconsin.  Which is the tougher team NC State or Fla St?  I'm thinking Fla St.  On the other hand, if the referees swallow their whistles that could be a problem.  Florida States problem was that they couldn't guard without fouling.  But everyone has had that problem with IU this year.
    Wisconsin's effective field goal percentage in their last three games has been 41.0, 35.8, 42.0.  Their turnover rates in their last three have been 23.3, 22.4, and 15.4.  Those numbers can get you beat by even a good mid-major.  Is home cooking going to fix that?  Where are the points going to come from?
    Vegas has this at 128.5 o/u and an implied score of 64.5 to 64.
    Hard to picture Wisconsin scoring more points than Florida State.  So I'll shave 4 points to get Wisconsin's score.  On the other hand I don't think Wisconsin can apply as much pressure as Florida State, so I'll take the same score for the Hoosiers just to be a bit conservative.  And there you go.  How did you come up with your numbers?
    IU - 80     Wisconsin- 60      Let's break the losing streak in a BIG way.  Go Hoosiers.
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    BottomLine reacted to ALASKA HOOSIER in Prediction League (Game 9 - @ Wisconsin 12/7/19)   
    Us-103
    Them- 72
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Deserthoozier in ACC-Big 10 Challenge   
    Can't believe on a basketball crazy forum like this nobody has anything to say about the challenge.  
    With three games to go the B10 leads 6-5 in a series where the ACC is getting exposed!  The victory margins by the B10 have been +18, +18, +14, +16, *29, and +21.  Only one game in the challenge has been decided by less than 10 points (Illinois came from 27 down to lose by 2).
    The last three games (Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State) could all be B10 wins.
    The success can't hurt the SOS argument from this point forward.
    Love seeing what the rest of the conference looks like.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Deserthoozier in ACC-Big 10 Challenge   
    Can't believe on a basketball crazy forum like this nobody has anything to say about the challenge.  
    With three games to go the B10 leads 6-5 in a series where the ACC is getting exposed!  The victory margins by the B10 have been +18, +18, +14, +16, *29, and +21.  Only one game in the challenge has been decided by less than 10 points (Illinois came from 27 down to lose by 2).
    The last three games (Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State) could all be B10 wins.
    The success can't hurt the SOS argument from this point forward.
    Love seeing what the rest of the conference looks like.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Deserthoozier in ACC-Big 10 Challenge   
    Can't believe on a basketball crazy forum like this nobody has anything to say about the challenge.  
    With three games to go the B10 leads 6-5 in a series where the ACC is getting exposed!  The victory margins by the B10 have been +18, +18, +14, +16, *29, and +21.  Only one game in the challenge has been decided by less than 10 points (Illinois came from 27 down to lose by 2).
    The last three games (Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State) could all be B10 wins.
    The success can't hurt the SOS argument from this point forward.
    Love seeing what the rest of the conference looks like.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from Deserthoozier in ACC-Big 10 Challenge   
    Can't believe on a basketball crazy forum like this nobody has anything to say about the challenge.  
    With three games to go the B10 leads 6-5 in a series where the ACC is getting exposed!  The victory margins by the B10 have been +18, +18, +14, +16, *29, and +21.  Only one game in the challenge has been decided by less than 10 points (Illinois came from 27 down to lose by 2).
    The last three games (Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State) could all be B10 wins.
    The success can't hurt the SOS argument from this point forward.
    Love seeing what the rest of the conference looks like.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Prediction League (Game 8 - Florida State 12/3/19)   
    Having fun with this league thus far, but I feel like I'm at the racetrack today.  I've spent all afternoon doping out the horses and scrutinizing the past performances and I have the feeling like I'm going to lose to some little old lady that is picking jockeys wearing pink silks and riding gray horses.
    OK so here goes.  The o/u in Vegas for this one is 140 and I have a feeling like that could be about right.  Florida State isn't a high powered offensive team and we are due to come back to reality with some stiffer competition.  FSUs O/D averages are 76 and 59.9 so they look like they try to beat you be stopping you from scoring.  Their O/D averages for the four power 5 opponents they have played are 61.75 and 57.75.  They are looking for a grind it out game.  Their average o/u is 135.9.  They are very big and their guards like to put pressure on the ball.  Can our guards hold up to that pressure?
    On the other hand IU has averages of 86.4 and 63.6 but we have played no power 5 opponents.  Out o/u is 150.0.  If Rob Phinisee were healthy and starting tonight I would comfortably go with the Hoosiers.  He isn't.  I'm afraid that FSU is going to clog up the middle with their big guys and turn us into a jump shooting team, which we don't do well.  On the other hand the game is in Bloomington and the students should be back from Thanksgiving vacation.  We are going to need that sixth man tonight.
    So, enough with the blah blah.  With an o/u in Vegas of 140 and with IU favored, the implied score is 71-69 IU, I'll ride with the Hoosiers until they fall.  I'll pick them the cover again and forget about the o/u.
    IU 75
    FSU 65
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Prediction League (Game 8 - Florida State 12/3/19)   
    Having fun with this league thus far, but I feel like I'm at the racetrack today.  I've spent all afternoon doping out the horses and scrutinizing the past performances and I have the feeling like I'm going to lose to some little old lady that is picking jockeys wearing pink silks and riding gray horses.
    OK so here goes.  The o/u in Vegas for this one is 140 and I have a feeling like that could be about right.  Florida State isn't a high powered offensive team and we are due to come back to reality with some stiffer competition.  FSUs O/D averages are 76 and 59.9 so they look like they try to beat you be stopping you from scoring.  Their O/D averages for the four power 5 opponents they have played are 61.75 and 57.75.  They are looking for a grind it out game.  Their average o/u is 135.9.  They are very big and their guards like to put pressure on the ball.  Can our guards hold up to that pressure?
    On the other hand IU has averages of 86.4 and 63.6 but we have played no power 5 opponents.  Out o/u is 150.0.  If Rob Phinisee were healthy and starting tonight I would comfortably go with the Hoosiers.  He isn't.  I'm afraid that FSU is going to clog up the middle with their big guys and turn us into a jump shooting team, which we don't do well.  On the other hand the game is in Bloomington and the students should be back from Thanksgiving vacation.  We are going to need that sixth man tonight.
    So, enough with the blah blah.  With an o/u in Vegas of 140 and with IU favored, the implied score is 71-69 IU, I'll ride with the Hoosiers until they fall.  I'll pick them the cover again and forget about the o/u.
    IU 75
    FSU 65
     
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    BottomLine got a reaction from bizzle44 in Food For Thought   
    The HOOSIERS are averaging 90.2 points/game.  That ranks second of the 353 division I teams.  After last year we were wondering if we would be able to score this year.  Don't tell me about the easy schedule.  Other teams play a series of cupcakes in November and they aren't scoring over 90 points/game.  A drop off is coming but how much?
    For those who have forgotten how dominate IU basketball have been over the years.  This is our 120th season and the lifetime record now stands at 1839-1053 for 63.6% wins.  Then again some people only ask "what have you done for me recently?"  Point taken, but the bar is always going to be high for the Hoosiers.
    The season record for the first six IU victims this year is 15-22.  Subtract the IU loss and they are 15-16.
    The present record for the teams that are ahead 82-27 and not one single opponent has a losing record.
    Despite leading IU in minutes played and scoring,  team captain Al Durham still is being left off many fan's ideal IU starting lineup.  That is despite 45.5% shooting from 3-point range and 19-21 from the foul line.  And, IU has the reputation as having one of the most knowledgeable fan bases.  Not going to happen guys.
    Finally Joey Brunk led IU in shots against Louisiana Tech.  Joey Brunk?
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    BottomLine got a reaction from jonz44 in Food For Thought   
    Crazy numbers:
    After 7 games this year we are 7-0 but, of course, we haven't played any one.  We are averaging 86.4 points/game and we are giving up 63.6/game.
    Last year at this time we were 5-2.  the two losses were to Arkansas by 1 on the road and by 21 to Duke on the road.  We had a good 23 point win over Marquette and 4 wins over cupcakes Chicago St, Montana St, Texas Arlington and UC-Davis.  At that point we were averaging 82.1 points/game and giving up 64.6.
    Are the numbers really any better than last year, considering the competition?
    In a roller-coaster year we followed the Duke loss by winning 7 in a row to bring us to 12-2 and a #21 ranking in the AP poll.  That was followed by a loss in 12 of the next 13 games before we righted ourselves and ended the regular season with 4 straight wins.
    By the end of the year we had a scoring average of 71.5 and a defensive average of 67.8
    Really hope for a win on Tuesday but folks the jury is still out.
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