Walking Boot of Doom

I think Al can lead by example, but I don’t know if he can be a drill sergeant. Jake Forrester seems to have potential there. Reminds me of Thomas Bryant a bit, if maybe slightly less emotional. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I’m with you man. There are people making this place absolutely unbearable. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Tom Jurich is everything wrong with college athletics. Win at all costs, rules and laws be damned. Hard pass. You’ll perpetually be disappointed in our ADs if that is what you want. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Thanks - sadly I’ve employed that function and lately I just end up scrolling through pages of the same five poster handles with hidden messages or end up reading them when they’re quoted anyway. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Nah, maybe once you’re done posting your routine garbage. It’s truly obnoxious. I think the mods try really hard to be extremely fair to all, but I’d ban you. Don’t know why you’re here to post non-stop misery. Why be so miserable? Stop watching. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Brooks was MSU’s until Archie made it a possible reality. Now it may or may not be a reality. So what was once just a fact is now a kiss of death. This is nonsensical. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Fraud. Keyboard all-star. Sup Eddy! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Neither of you have an ounce of objectivity. We have a 5 star McDAA signed up for next year. Guess what Brooks is not? Both of you, jump off the proverbial cliff or stop posting the same garbage. There are many here with intelligent thoughts on either side of the coin improving discussion on the board. Neither of you are one of those people. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

The point is to wallow in as much misery and project as many apocalyptic scenarios as possible. For a fan base that talks endlessly about having the “right players” and the intangibles, some seem to have a hard time understanding addition by subtraction. We’ll see who CAM allows to stay next year... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

The Hartman comments jive with what we’re seeing. Zero player leadership and ownership, excluding some like Al and Morgan, but neither seem like get in your face and yell type guys. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Weird, because you still seem to be posting plenty. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Yeah the late game all in and win was a Crean special on the recruiting trials. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Ohp and I thought we were getting somewhere. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Mods - can you move this convo to a thread where we can continue this? Apologies for derailing. I don't think I'm alone here, but I very clearly saw well designed offensive sets and plays coming out of dead ball situations last year. I have not seen any of those this year. Something is very off this year, and I really don't know what it is.

See, resources is a consideration, but I think Indiana's struggles are around the severity of the identity shift with a "hangover" roster. Archie is a system coach and is shifting Indiana from a run-and-gun offensive focused identity to a principled defensive focused identity. Just a more dramatic shift than most programs, in my opinion, but I haven’t dug into a lot of the ones listed above.