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That’s why he has lots of time to post inside info on this board!

Good start to the FMW thread today!!!

Most of it. But the reputation damage is done with all sorts of articles and interviews about IU and their new coach who also has DV issues. It's not fair, but it becomes "IU is okay with DV." Then there is the ongoing risk of an embarrassing relapse. If that happened, Scott and Pam are fired. It's just hard for a big time program/university to associate itself with someone who has DV allegations. Maybe it's not fair, but it's just how it is for any big brand program. I'm not making this hire. If I was, and Beard was begging for the job, I'd talk with him and have him walk me through what happened, play the recording, get PI/police opinions, etc. Maybe there is an exonerating angle in there. My gut is there isn't and he screwed up, but I would check.

Yea, if we hire him it's a shitstorm of media mentioning the DV allegations and the university and fans being divided over it. Just doesn't work for IU.

Yea. These are some of the big questions we need Scott to ask and he needs to get the judgement call right.

This coaching search is literally the only thing IU fans have. If someone thinks we can’t hire a coach because of whatever reason, okay, but then they may as well give up on IUBB altogether. If we can’t hire a good coach it’s over.

Good find. This is going to go over well with our fanbase who is already highly irritated lol. This is one thing where I find everyone getting mad to be funny.

I have a sense the last thing Woody’s pals can try to do for him is give him the option to resign when wants between now and end of year. But things have deteriorated and it’s time for Scott and Pam to take action

An announcement that Woody will resign end of season would do wonders for the atmosphere at AH for the UM game and the rest of the home games. I still doubt his ego will agree to it...

Nothing is officially starting for 4.5 more weeks! There will be no kneejerking amongst the stakeholders after one bad result, or two, or three, or losing six of the last seven…

Cruelty is a strong word. It’s just fan displeasure when they see something they care about neglected. Mike has not put 100% into this job, everyone can see that, and on top of that he’s been arrogant and deflected blame along the way. Now that he has comprehensively failed at his job, the chickens have come home to roost.

I checked in on Tyme, still not tweeting after he deleted all his posts a few days ago. Maybe he finally came to grips with being 100% wrong.

Every time Scott sees the pro-Woody donors and trustees, it has to be an extremely satisfying spoken or unspoken "I told you so."

I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this year’s Spring Game outdraws last year’s Hoosier Hysteria. Of course it doesn’t mean FB is bigger, but it’s another sign of change. IUBB is a sleeping (dormant?) giant, but CFB is way, way bigger than CBB. Winning a big CFB game is honestly more cool than a big CBB win. Cig is an exciting leader… if he keeps it up it may flip in a few years. I don’t care which one is bigger, I just want to be good at both.

That $1M raise he got in August 2023 drives me crazy. He had not outperformed in any way that deserved a raise, and after getting the raise he completely fell apart.

Those are not the expectations here, no matter how many different ways you try to say it.

Yea. On that note IIRC Cig wants portal to come down a bit (not saying it will go away, it won’t) and HS to pick up a bit. ‘26 I think we’ll see that continue to happen as the staff has now had the time required to form relationships with high school players and the programs/coaches. The more a program can develop internally the better — cheaper than the portal and better team continuity.

After seeing her I thought he was going to be a better recruiter than he ended up being.

Hanner Perea is not a fan.

Hopefully Woody’s burner brigade didn’t get to him!

Yea, every midmajor coach is not automatically Archie. There are great ones in those ranks. But, we need Scott to figure out which ones work at IU if we go that route. I can’t really tell from a distance.

Agree. Though I suspect he may play a little different after recruiting high end players with our NIL…

I can’t guarantee Scott gets the hire right, but I am quite sure he has been prepping for this moment for years and has a Plan A, B, C, all the way to Z. All the IUBB influences need stand back to let him go through his process.

It’s pretty likely someone different is hiring the bball coach this time. And that person just hired a very good football coach, a feat which seemed nearly impossible. I’m not saying you need to believe the Brad or even Dusty stuff. But there are reasons for optimism that we hire someone good.

Beyond Brad I really don’t who we should hire. I’ve never met these candidates and interviewed them to figure out why they are successful to date and why they would or wouldn’t work at IU. I am praying Scott figures it out in the interviews, he has done it before, which gives me hope…