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Bingo. Look at how Scott identified Cig, quickly built a relationship and trust with Cig, and closed the deal. It seems the only other person who was brought in to play a role in the hiring process was Pam. That's perfect, two people. The donors are greatly appreciated, but they need to realize they're only good at the $ aspect and any further involvement is detrimental. Cig continues to reference Scott and also Pam as the reason he is here. This is how things should work. Thankfully Quinn didn't have any best pals that coach football.

I can confirm this. I still think he's a longshot and I don't think he ever comes here, but you've got to try and there is no harm in trying.

There is only one reason you hire a candidate no other school would even think to hire.

$5M going down $1M each year. Easy peasy.

Vanderbilt NIT game levels…

Interestingly he said the same thing when he was interviewing for the Knicks job in 2020. Shame they didn't rehire him. "I did my job when I was here," Woodson said. "We won games. The fan base was engaged. I walked out of the Garden many nights thinking that the fans were proud and excited about what we were doing. Am I capable of coming back to New York and helping them build a winning team again? I feel confident in that, I absolutely do."

His buyout is $5M and goes down $1M each year. Not great, but doable.

I hate to type this, but I feel good about Brad figuring out the NIL-era if he ever wanted to. Everything he touches turns to gold or close to it: the improbable Butler runs, he did pretty well as the Celts coach (7/8 years in playoffs, three conference finals appearances), and then he figured out the GM job and they won a championship thanks to some of his key personnel moves. GM of the Celts is a much tougher job than executing an NIL strategy. 0.1% chance he comes here, but just saying. Fortunately, I think any coach adept in modern basketball that we can plug into our NIL will do well here.

It's a shame -- we have easier transfer rules than UM and more NIL. He would have fit in very well here too. He could end up being another big "what if" in the history of IUBB.

IIRC, there was a rumor he was on a jet to Bloomington and then we announced Crean. Those were the days.

Per X (@pos_josh): For the first time in his tenure, Mike Woodson is not shown on the video board walking out of the locker room. No cheers, no boos. Just a coach walking onto the floor.

I know we keep in touch with him. I doubt he ever comes here. And I don’t blame him, our bball program is a mess.

Ha, I’m not surprised to hear that. That sort of meeting just needs two, three at most people from IU. But of course we took our giant group of “stakeholders” there and botched it. Classic.

I doubt she was that challenging. We just don’t know what we’re doing, so she appears challenging.

He may still want to coach, but it's got to be pretty fun moving pieces around on an NBA team and that directly leads to making NBA finals and now winning a championship.

In the end these boards are just entertainment. Same with IU sports. I've been on the IU rivals board for 20 years, I'm ashamed I can't make the connection on Cathy's handle over there lol.

The worst thing is there is no oversight over him. No accountability. He is negligent and ruins things from a distance with no repercussions.

Yea, she really reinforces how badly IUBB is run. It's incredible.

This is so depressing.

Thanks -- I didn't know that. Quinn is so out of line I can't imagine more negligent and selfish behavior from a trustee with respect to IUBB.

Pure cronyism. Sold IUBB down the river for their pal who needed career help after the NBA determined he wasn't head coach material.

Yep. IUBB has existed to serve Mike Woodson since 2021. Mike's NBA career had reached a dead end, for seven years no one would hire him as a head coach because the whole NBA knew he wasn't good at it. Quinn used his influence to bail him out and give him the IU job, where he makes 3-4x what he was making in the NBA. Then IU gives him all the resources he could need to field an elite team: a large budget to run the program and top-20 now top-5 NIL to buy players. In return, he provides (i) mediocre to poor results on the court, (ii) well documented half-assed effort, and (iii) divisive behavior and rhetoric. He is toxic and it will be a great day when he leaves.

My guess is no cheers, but few if any boos. We're a bunch of nice Midwesterners. Maybe I'm wrong.

Looking at Scott’s long tenure at IU and then becoming AD, he had the challenge that he had only experienced a mediocre athletic department / administration that made a bunch of bad FB and BB hires. He never got to work with and learn from an elite athletic department before becoming AD. Personally I give him some leeway on his mistakes (like the Allen extension). I’m hoping he has learned and now understands what we need. FB has been very encouraging.

No Cathy so far today. She/he must be staffed on game day activities, no time to defend Woody on the message boards.