realTomCrean

Stop hiring the olds! Dusty May!!

I don’t know what this means but I’m done with it too!

Juwan Howard Chris Holtmann Brad Underwood

100 pages by end of business today or you're all fired.

Equally important task Trish just brought up, which infuriates other fans as much as me I'm sure. We fire Archie, the least successful IU HC ever(?), and retain his freaking staff. What was IU administration thinking?!

Tony Perkins would be an insane get in the portal.

Then make it happen! Data aside, @Ngw7183, on any team/company/unit you're with - You'll be best prepared with the leader who loves and will do anything for that of which he's leading. That intrinsic motivation more times than not yields better results than a guy such as Archie - who was very limited in his affinity for IU basketball. Dusty grew up 20 mins south of Btown? Then managed at IU as his "dream" and now has worked his tail off to become successful, if his life dream is to become IU basketball coach it would be hard to imagine you're not getting 100% every day from the guy. Records be damned - give me the leader with passion 10/10 times. He's not basketball royalty, never got a great gig, simply worked his tail off to get where he is: Community college player, manager, intern, staff position, assistant coach, and eventually head coach. He's worked at every single echelon within a college program. He started by filling up water bottles for Pete's sake. He loves IU basketball. He "would walk from Florida to Btown for the IU job", do you think losing wouldn't kill him inside the same way it does fans? I'd be hard pressed to imagine him going out for wine and cigars after a loss.

I've been doing this lately for first time ever as well. AD, Senators, Reps, state senators. Becoming an old in real time - tough pill to swallow

Especially when it's dancing and a show more than a concert.

Beautiful isn't it

@Ngw7183

IMO no it won't. 2.5 years of play and taking the most long 2's, dumping it in and playing through the 4/5 is a negative for top end guards. If I'm wrong, why does 2024 2025 recruiting back up my point. Where's the top guards? I will say I could've worded it better, Woodson and IU do get top end PF/C. I meant guards exclusively.

What's the spread and what's the play Usps O'Wise one

I want Woodson to have success and even I have made the argument that he's made the tourney 2x after a half-decade dry spell, but when you see it faltering it's time to pull the plug. It's not getting to the tourney, though that is important, it's the play style, the character of the players, the recruiting, and possibility of coaching style leading admin/fans to be hopeful they can win a "B1G championship or National Championship" as Woodson says. It's clear as day that this style of ball isn't going to bring in top end talent and will not produce results that end up in championships. All future indicators point to this being a crash and burn ending for Woody and IU, save some face while there is still a possibility to do so. That's why I want IU to move on before Woodson's entire IU image is tainted. Don't let the dog slowly bleed, put it out of his misery quickly. And if they do separate after this year, T's & P's to Coach Woodson for a great "bridge" contract to return IU from the dumpster fire it has been since 2016. We would look back fondly on Woodson and his contribution if it ends this year, next year the image will be different.

If it takes him 4 years, yes, he'd be chastised. Teams can literally bring in 8-10 news guys a year now and if that doesn't work year 1, teams can do it all again year 3. I believe if May, who I sincerely hope is hired in the next 60 days, had a lackluster first year the minimum expectation for year 2 is the tournament and every year beyond that is competing nationally. It just comes with the job, if coaches don't want expectations and fan pressure, they should go to a place that doesn't value and have history of being successful - it's a part of the IU job just as it is w/ UK, Louisville, Duke, UNC, Kansas. IU will provide a coach w/ top notch facilities, astronomical pay, NIL funds that are hard to match, and brand recognition. IU and fans make a coaches life easy to recruit and vehemently support a winner. Win or be replaced. "It's Indiana, It's Indiana"

1 season past S16 in 20 years. Gross

Not ratings but more style of play I’d say Shoots a ton of 3’s and really aggressive D w/ pressures traps and doubles. Basically Tom Crean, say what you want about his teams but when they were humming it was fun basketball to watch

If Woodson stays another year this thread will approach Romeo Langford recruiting thread territory. The good old days

Nobody suffered more from the Crean firing than Devonte Green

The Four Agreements Quotes by Miguel Ruiz (goodreads.com) Rule #3 Don't Make Assumptions

Would fit well. Always have viewed him as 1B tier

I'm in FWIW

Why? Because Woodson, believe it or not, knows more about Indiana basketball than anyone else collectively on this site and is in the 99% percentile in all of humanity in knowing the inner workings of IUBB. Relations with former players, boosters, knows methods to increase revenue for NIL, and as a program am I alone in wishing a coach would leave in good graces w/ the masses? He has been great at development, recruitment, and sending PF/C to NBA - while he may be lackluster as a coach when considering every aspect, he still knows things other simply do not. Hell, he may have relations with a family/coach/program that can end up offering us a great piece to a future team - that is not out of the realm of possibilities. In the military during Change of Command, there is what we call "Left seat, Right Seat" meaning the new Commander/Senior Enlisted personnel will spend a sizable amount of time with their replacement to ensure that everyday workings are covered and there will not be a drop off for the unit. I believe and have seen in CBB that the same approach proves to be beneficial. In fact, if Knight had not been fired, I find it hard to believe IU would've fell off to this extent. Lastly, Woodson has taken us to 2x tourneys after a half-decade dry spell. He was an All-American at IU and I believe he also owns a few businesses in Bloomington/Indy. Call it a respect thing, "thank you for your service". I also think it would be best for the program in more ways than one to have him "advise" while maintaining a few benefits as an ode to his contributions to the IU program. You can teach a lot of things, but experience and respect of service are not one of them. Now, this is just my 2c so attack at will - but it will fall upon deaf ears.

It will take a package as described above, but I offer another method of continuity that is important for the program: Woody gets to be in an advisor role. Show up to practice/games at his will, pick his own seat, and bring guest(s) of his choosing. Access to locker room before/after games and a direct line of communication to the new coach.

EMBARASSING