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Haralson, Bidunga, Singleton. I would put feelers out. For some depth, maybe take a look at Kellen Pickett (Ft. Wayne) and Michael Cooper (Jeffersonville) at Wright State. Young guys that could grow into the program but also put up some decent numbers (Cooper in particular, Pickett came on recently) and you could probably get at a discount. I think you need to shoot high on the starters and then bring in some young guys who are showing flashes that you could maybe grow into the program (and would also be your culture building guys).

I don't know, weren't there a couple of injured guys who were supposed to be decent but we didn't really get to see at all? I would rather keep a few more guys if we think we could do something with them and then have more to spend on like 3 or 4 guys as opposed to trying to fill 7 or 8 spots.

So I'll ignore the fan stuff and address the last paragraph. You aren't wrong with that but we have had that same response after the first year for 3 hires in a row. There was nothing to build on for this year. The only thing we showed is that Devries is willing to let certain guys bomb away from 3. There is next to no youth sticking around, we apparently didn't have athletes to run what I assume he needed athletes to run, and we start all over again next year. So once again we are in that "Hope this turns out" position instead of "I think things are going to work out because...."

He has more than one more year. This school is very consistent on at least that thing.

I will take things I want to see, not hear, for $1000 Alex.

Well, that's the season.

We lose this one the tournament isn't happening.

Sane way they miss an obvious hack on a three point shot at the end of a game...

Yeah, kills us every game.

These long droughts of no buckets are just killer

So I will ring in here, I think it was fed up after Woodson and at a certain point, you could tell this team just isn't built to do the "it" we want it to. They are about at their ceiling right now which is to squeak into the tournament and probably be one and done. They are still in a position to do that but honestly you kind of look around at the programs in our area and after just seeing a national title run in football and sitting around watching 19-12, 8 minute scoring drought, can't defend very well basketball just isn't that exciting. We have been "rebuilding" for 10 years and frankly the program is just stale. The crowd was stale. The play was stale. There is just no juice, like it doesn't even really excite or bother me too much while watching the games anymore. I was all in on the football team during the CFP run and when I contrast it to this it is the difference between being invested and watching out of habit and nothing better to do. And when the bulk of the team is going to be gone next year, you aren't even watching for the future. The argument we have heard the past 10 years is that the fan base has held the program back with our negativity and we all just need to shut up and go away for awhile until they get things cooking again. They are getting their wish. Twitter was about as docile after a disaster like last night as I have ever seen out of the fanbase and that wasn't because of understanding, it is apathy.

I am totally happy with what Cignetti is doing but what has happened to the basketball program is criminal.

Geez, the crowd (or lack thereof) is crazy as a long time fan. The people running this school truly killed their crown jewel.

I think you can get mid major guards but you can't rely on mid major bigs. I think you will miss more than you hit with those.

Talent covers up for when you don't perfectly execute. This team doesn't have the talent so when they don't execute extremely well or a more talented team does execute well, we get beat. Listen, this is Devries first year so a split with Purdue is "acceptable" but this has been a Woodson-esque performance from a results standpoint. Decently competitive at home, lose some we shouldn't, get obliterated by Top 25 teams on the road. That has been this program's MO going back several coaches now. Devries is going to get a Mulligan this year but these road blowouts absolutely have to stop. I am not saying win the game at Purdue every year, but multiple double digit blow outs every year has to stop. We were never in that game last night.

That is a talent issue. Wr have some young guys who could develop into something but Wilkerson and to a lesser extent Devries are the only two guys on our team who would get major minutes at a Top 5 Big Ten program. Everyone else is either a developing bench player or one of those players who has been in the program for 3 or 4 years that comes in and can give you a solid few minutes while the starter is getting a blow. So far, we are treading water of the Woodson era. He had better players but couldn't coach them and in year one I think Devries can coach but he doesn't have a competitive roster. You have to have both of those things in your favor to win at an acceptable level.

Yeah, if we don't find size in the portal we should go scour the Euro leagues for big guys. You can play European professionals now so why limit ourselves to just the portal?

We better find some actual interior players in the offseason.

Consistently poor officiating in this league. For all the money it makes you would think they could buy some decent referees.

Did he play center in those games? Any chance he could play the 4? I would be trying to develop an outside shot for him. Having an athletic stretch 4 and then a true banger is the way to go IMO. You put Sisley in that mix too and you could go small ball when you need. If Dorn continues to develop you put him at the 3. Then you are looking at adding a few guards IMO. The two positions I would pay bigger money for are PG and C.

That dude coached Brad Davison and has him on his bench. He can suck it.

I want to shoot Big Ten officials into the sun.

The only thing I can think of is how did the other teams we played fair yesterday. Like if a few of our bad losses or good wins had a bad loss it drags you down.

Just awful. They had that game put away and have lost all the momentum. Complete cluster **** on drawing up plays to inbound tha ball. Just awful.

I just wanted to hear you say it again...lol.