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That laid back nature is probably at least part of the reason why each of his 3 teams so far have underperformed their talent level, in other words, were less than the sum of their parts. That will likely happen again this year. They'll be better (not hard) but not quite as good as they should be. This should be a very good team. Wait, I forgot that I'm converted now. Woodson is the best coach ever and this will be championship season #1 and Woodson will coach circles around those others you mentioned.

Eliminating the spring transfer portal window for football is being considered. It's like the NCAA is now actively looking for ways to get sued. https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-ncaa-proposing-elimination-of-spring-football-transfer-portal-window-181254907.html https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/many-college-football-coaches-in-favor-of-ending-spring-transfer-portal-window-but-legal-challenges-loom/

It's always fun watching recruiting and seeing the swings in fan reactions. It seems there is always 1 or 2 recruitments like this every year: 1) Recruit (usually from IN) that is coveted and IU starts to recruit him. Everyone feels good. 2) Poster goes on message boards and claims to have inside info. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Gives positive feedback on the recruitment. Everyone feels even better. 3) Later, poster claiming inside info says that it's pretty much a done deal, he's IU's to lose, he's given a silent verbal, or some variation of that. The board is ecstatic. 4) Time goes on without a commitment and he plans visits to other schools. Poster still posting he'll commit to IU messages. Board is happy but starting to feel a tiny bit antsy. 5) More time goes on without a commitment. Maybe he makes some visits. Inside info poster gives positive feedback but not quite as certain as before or goes silent. People start to really get antsy. 6) An article, crystal ball, or just comment from analyst that seems more favorable to another school than IU comes out. Anxiety is evident with some people saying he's gone other saying no way. 7) More time goes on without positive IU news, maybe something else positive for another school. The board blows up because all of a sudden IU is losing the recruit, has no chance, and people are ready to jump from a bridge since the sky is falling. Blame and excuses abound. 8) Happiness/sadness of the boards fluctuates as he continues to make visits without committing while articles, crystal balls guesses, analyst comments, and message board posts continue both in favor of IU and other schools. It seems we're at #6 with Mullins. Meanwhile, here's me the whole time knowing how up and down it'll be:

lol. Miller was hired right after Crean who IU kept for 9 years. At that point, it was a combined 15 seasons between the two coaches after Knight who were fired for not winning. IU wasn't (and still isn't) firing coaches too quickly for not winning.

Actually 5 because DD was just an interim HC.

But they're not being fired in 2-3 years for not winning enough as you seem to be claiming. They're given time and still fail to consistently win and are let go. The anomaly (Sampson) really drives down the average number of years. He wasn't fired for not winning, he was fired despite winning.

Davis - 6 years Sampson - <2 year Crean - 9 years (including 3 terrible years at the beginning) Miller - 4 years Only 1 was in the 2-3 year (or less) range and he got himself fired. Ironically, he was the best coach of the bunch. So the narrative that IU has this great turnover in coaches is just false. Yet somehow, none of those 3 turned into the next Coach K, Jay Wright, or Dan Hurley. Odd. In fact, they all flamed out and did poorly after IU except for Sampson. Good thing we have the greatest coach ever now.

Right, because preseason polls aren't a thing.

I would think that having the #3 frontcourt and #14 backcourt would make this a top 10 team. There must be some reason it isn't. I wonder what that could be.

The article is incorrect since they list only 7 names in the top 8. IU is the one they left out. "eight finalists: Arkansas, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina, Notre Dame and Ohio State."

Their website seems to be having errors. When I looked at the list it somehow left out IU. I tried reloading the page but the error persisted.

The women add a depth recruit at the last minute. https://swimswam.com/florida-state-champ-adrianna-lojewski-will-join-indiana-university-this-fall-2024/

Delete means that the post was completely removed. Hidden means that a post is still there but can't be seen. I hope that helps.

At least basketball isn't as bad as football yet. In football, a "commitment" should really be considered just publicly stating the leader in their recruitment.

I do but with how great this team and coach are, 22 wins is very weak. This is one of the greatest coaches ever so it's insulting that you have such low expectations that only 22 would be possible.

Well, I'm convinced now. Woodson is the greatest thing since sliced bread. He should definitely get a huge raise and an extension before the season since he's definitely on the level of Knight, McCracken, K, Hurley, and multiple other NC winning coaches. This year is when he'll show his greatness and will be the 1st of multiple NC because this is such a great team with a great coach. It's really odd, though, that his biggest supporters put the floor at only 22 wins while telling us how great this team and the coach are. Regardless, they've convinced me of his greatness so anything less than 25 regular season wins and a FF appearance would be a disappointing season.

Wow. Assuming he has eligibility left (I think he has 1 year) and isn't going pro, Chris Guiliano should transfer to IU.

Winning coaches get to stay a long time? How shocking. Woodson is nowhere close to being as good as either of those two. Being better than Archie Miller doesn't automatically make him the next Knight or McCracken.

That's....a bit much. He would certainly improve the team and would very likely lead to better recruiting. But a jump from the state of IU football to a title contender seems hyperbolic.

Miller "only" got 4 seasons but your point still stands.

So the argument to keep Woodson seems to be that while he might not be that good, we probably won't do better so should just be happy with mediocrity. Cool.

You're right. I must have swapped the 17 wins with the 7 loses in my mind. My bad. Still less than a 0.500 record against teams with a pulse. But accuracy matters so thanks for pointing that out. I fixed it.

Those 40 losses are by an average of 12 points. So under Woodson, the average lose is a blowout. This isn't surprising his terrible record against good teams (both record and number of blowouts). 35-39 (47.3%) against NET top 100 teams uninspiring, especially considering that for 2 of those seasons he had an AA player who was also an IU great. I think they'll be better this year than last (hard not to be) but will still underperform what they should be.

Those 40 losses are by an average of 12 points. So under Woodson, the average lose is a blowout.